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Pennsylvania Real-Time News Posted October 05, 2017 at 06:30 AM | Updated October 05, 2017 at 07:27 AM

December will be a few degrees warmer than normal, hovering in the mid-to-high 40s, according to AccuWeather.

“December will be fairly mild,” Boston said. “You might get some storms with snow, but probably more rain.”

OK, so what about a white Christmas? [the Harrisburg area]

“There’s a lower-than-average chance of a white Christmas, but it can get stormy,” Boston said.

So, there’s still a chance?

“There’s less than a 1-in-3 chance,” he said. “It’s not out of the question, but odds favor February and possible even March for snow.”...

Erie, where it’s not unusual to see heavy snow in November, is expected to get more lake-effect snow this year. - http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/10/snow_ice_rain_coming_to_pa_acc.html

1 posted on 12/26/2017 1:37:48 PM PST by daniel1212
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I hope algore is buried under all that glowbull warming..I mean snow.


2 posted on 12/26/2017 1:39:31 PM PST by beergarden
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My wife’s family lives in the Akron, OH area and we’ve made the drive on I-90 through Erie many a time and have driven through some wicked snow storms, but at 50 inches, this one takes the cake! Be careful of the lake effect snow driving along Lake Erie and also the eastern end of Lake Ontario!


3 posted on 12/26/2017 1:41:35 PM PST by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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Then there is the 3 month National Weather Service predictions which I never remember them predicting lower than average temps for the NE, and once for average, as its almost consistently predicting above average temps, as

Nov-Dec-Jan 2018-19, made Dec. 21 http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/seasonal.php?lead=11

See see here. http://whdh.com/weather/

5 posted on 12/26/2017 1:45:53 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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Our first winter in New Hampshire my wife was pregnant and I always had to keep the driveway open in case we needed to make a quick dash to the hospital. It snowed 48 inches in January. My daughter was born on Feb 1. It felt like I was shoveling nonstop for the entire month.

Nex winter I had a Ford F350 with an 8 foot Fisher plow on the front. I learned my lesson.


6 posted on 12/26/2017 1:50:40 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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I’m from Erie. I fish there visit there and party there. But I still say they only have two seasons. Winter and the 4th of July.


7 posted on 12/26/2017 1:52:15 PM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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Mrs. BN & our daughter’s family spent 16 hours driving back from Vermont to Cleveland area on Friday AM/Saturday AM through a miserable snowstorm. Thankfully, they were not two days later!

Right now it’s 16 degrees, going down to 8 tonight. Last night the wind chill was minus 5.

Tell me again what’s wrong with ‘Global Warming’?


10 posted on 12/26/2017 2:01:20 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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Doesn't lake effect snow depend on the Great Lakes not being frozen? Thus, the warm autumn did contribute to massive snow when the temp cooled down and a front moved through. But now, it has gotten massively cold and the Great Lakes should freeze. That should cut off the fuel for humongous lake effect snowstorms after a few more days of frigid cold.

What we're getting now is certainly not global warming. It's weird weather variations. The trees had leaves around here until the week after Thanksgiving! (metro Cleveland)

13 posted on 12/26/2017 2:25:07 PM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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Obviously it proves global warming, because milder and milder winters until eventually snow is a memory leads to more snowfall.
/ Obvious sarc


14 posted on 12/26/2017 3:19:57 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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17 posted on 12/26/2017 6:46:18 PM PST by xp38
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