[grania]

It isn't just the obscurity and the losing. Many players who have escaped have done well with other teams. One can't help but wonder if inept Browns management is destroying players who get drafted and are forced to play here.

Why the heck isn't Hue Jackson fired yet? His sticking with DeShone Kizer is irrational.

I have a confession. I've given up watching NFL football. But I do watch the Cleveland Browns this year on antenna TV with no technology hooked up to it. I'm not watching real football. I'm watching the Cleveland Browns Comedy of Ineptitude.

[BenLurkin]

Did you hear about the “perfect season” parade that is being organized for early Ja uary?

[hinckley buzzard]

The Browns have two problems: no competent management and no competent coaching. Since returning to the league in 1999 under the leadership of crooked Carmen Policy, the whole organization has been a mere feeding trough for opportunists passing through. Can you say Mike Holmgren?

Fans for years wanted Bernie Kosar, beloved former QB, to get involved with the team leadership. He finally came out and publically said he wanted no part of a group that wasn’t even serious about doing their jobs, much less building a formidable team.

Now they have a crook for an owner, just replaced a GM who blew a trade because he didnt file a simple form on time, and a gibbering idiot for a head coach, who just this week trashed his own players in a presser. And his record is now one and 30, so he should really be talking right? Right. That’s the Browns.