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Massad Ayoob’s 10 Commandments Of Concealed Carry
Daily Caller ^ | Massad Ayoob

Posted on 12/24/2017 7:59:45 AM PST by Strac6

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Good core info for new CCW and good reminders for all of us

My rules:

Never point a weapon at something you are not prepared to kill.

Never just display a weapon as an legally unjustified threat. That is the crime of "assault."

If you ever use a weapon, remember who the witnesses were, and who they weren't. In the Michael Brown shooting, there were multiple so-called witnesses who started the "Hands Up - Don't Shoot" rumors and who were later proven to not be witnesses to anything. Point out the witnesses, or lack of them to arriving LEOs. Likewise, if perp shot at you and hit a target that might be later moves, such as a car, point that out to LEOs as well.

If the perp had a weapon, ensure no co-conspirator of his removes it from the scene.

Other than that, identify yourself to the LEO, and then direct all, I repeat ALL LEO question to your lawyer.

1 posted on 12/24/2017 7:59:45 AM PST by Strac6
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To: Strac6

Sorry for typos:

Good core info for new CCW and good reminders for all of us

My rules:

Never point a weapon at something you are not prepared to kill.

Never just display a weapon as a legally unjustified threat. That is the crime of “assault.”

If you ever use a weapon, remember who the witnesses were, and who they weren’t. In the Michael Brown shooting, there were multiple so-called witnesses who started the “Hands Up - Don’t Shoot” rumors and who were later proven to not be witnesses to anything. Point out the witnesses, or lack of them to arriving LEOs. Likewise, if perp shot at you and hit a target that might be later moved, such as a car, point that out to LEOs as well.

If the perp had a weapon, ensure no co-conspirator of his removes it from the scene.

Other than that, identify yourself to the LEO, and then direct all, I repeat ALL LEO question to your lawyer.


2 posted on 12/24/2017 8:04:58 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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My number one rule is the best gunfight is the one you don't have. Yes, sometimes it is forced upon you and you have no choice. Benn there done that and don't want to do it again - if preventable. I have discussed this with Ayoob on the radio and he will allow my position, but it doesn't fit his business model.
3 posted on 12/24/2017 8:05:14 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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And remember, after shooting someone, that your 911 call is recorded for the sole purpose of using your utterances against you.


4 posted on 12/24/2017 8:08:58 AM PST by umgud
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Nice set of written down rules


5 posted on 12/24/2017 8:12:27 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Men stand up for freedom; slaves kneel before their masters.)
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To: Strac6; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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6 posted on 12/24/2017 8:13:49 AM PST by PROCON (Merry Christmas and Happy Trump Year!)
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“And remember, after shooting someone, that your 911 call is recorded for the sole purpose of using your utterances against you.”

That is a very foolish comment. That is far from the sole purpose. #1 reason is when some idiot screams something almost unintelligible into phone, they can replay it to try to decipher it.


7 posted on 12/24/2017 8:16:49 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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Hint: if your chosen caliber is not used by police or military personnel, it’s probably not powerful enough for its intended purpose.

Do the military or police get issued anything in .45? Because I'm pretty sure .45 is powerful.

8 posted on 12/24/2017 8:18:43 AM PST by wastedyears (US out of the UN, UN out of the US.)
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Good grief, that guy is fantastic.

Massad Ayoob: Judicious Use Of Deadly Force.

9 posted on 12/24/2017 8:19:41 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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Also, your first line on 911 call should be the location, the cross-streets. That way if you are cut off, they still know where to send help.


10 posted on 12/24/2017 8:20:21 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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Col Jeff Cooper’s Four Firearms Rules:

1. All guns are always loaded.

2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


11 posted on 12/24/2017 8:20:34 AM PST by wastedyears (US out of the UN, UN out of the US.)
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We’ll have to agree to disagree.


12 posted on 12/24/2017 8:20:46 AM PST by umgud
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To: wastedyears

Problem is, .45 in a short barrelled weapon is usually way too much gun for all but very experienced shooters.

9mm with good ammunition, (Barnes or Ranger +P bonded) is fine.


13 posted on 12/24/2017 8:22:38 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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With respect, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own set of facts.


14 posted on 12/24/2017 8:24:10 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: mad_as_he$$

Exactly. You never lose the gunfight you walk away from. RVN was enough bodies.

Deadly danger to me or Mrs Strac? Engage. Car being stolen from driveway, call cops then USAA.


15 posted on 12/24/2017 8:27:24 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: wastedyears

Yes, the 45ACP is issued to our SWAT teams here.


16 posted on 12/24/2017 8:27:58 AM PST by bruoz
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To: Strac6

My rules:

Never expose yourself to ambush in transitional spaces. Police and security guards excepted.

If you have to go to Walmart, do so in the morning, not at 10 pm.

Never go anywhere after bedtime.

Do not show your phone, flash a wad, or let your cc be detected.

Stay in front of those you have an obligation to protect.

Never let a stranger approach you. Step back, get an object between you.

Never allow your car to become a coffin. Leave room between you and the car in front to make a U turn or go around. Don’t hesitate to run over someone who is threatening you even if they are unarmed. If your car isn’t mobile, get out and dominate the space.

Never speak to the police about a conflict. Your lawyer can do that for you. No matter what they say, they are not on your side and their questions will wait. Let them arrest you if that is offered as an alternative to a statement.


17 posted on 12/24/2017 8:31:32 AM PST by anton
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To: Strac6

Good info as usual by Mr. Ayoob...

Read and comprehended, that’s all good advice from someone who knows from firsthand experience...

From the comfort of the LazyBoy, it’s easy for the chairborne ranger types to parse and pick, to dissect at leisure, but for the noob to CCW here’s a good foundation...

Thanks for posting, and Merry Christmas to all at FR...


18 posted on 12/24/2017 8:34:19 AM PST by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: Steely Tom

Yes, Ayoob is very good. I’ve read some of his books.


19 posted on 12/24/2017 8:37:01 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Ban pre-shredded cheese now! Make America Grate Again.)
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20 posted on 12/24/2017 8:38:24 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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