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OSU researchers study risks of armed self-defense
gazettetimes.com ^ | Dec. 22, 2017 | LILLIAN SCHROCK Corvallis Gazette-Times

Posted on 12/24/2017 6:51:51 AM PST by PROCON


Training for armed self-defense is like preparing for a natural disaster, according to the research of two Oregon State University professors.

The researchers set out to understand how Americans who keep and carry handguns for self-defense mitigate the risks involved, such as accidentally shooting oneself, inaccurately identifying a threat or being clumsy. The professors identified ways that handguns owners work to diminish those risks, including through training, mental rehearsing and routine maintenance.

The researchers determined that while those efforts mitigate the physical, legal and moral risks associated with using handguns for self-defense, it does not remove all risk.

“It’s sort of like preparing for an earthquake or a tsunami,” said Aimee Huff, as assistant professor in the College of Business and one of the study’s lead authors. “You can do your best to be prepared, but in the moment, if it happens, yes, you’re going to rely on your training but there’s also going to be a lot of thinking in the moment.”

Also, the stimuli in the event will probably be different than what the gun owner had trained for, said the study’s other lead author, Michelle Barnhart, an associate professor in the College of Business.

The study was published Monday in the Journal of the Association for Consumer Research. OSU business professor James McAlexander and Brandon McAlexander of the University of Arkansas also are coauthors.

Focus on guns

According to a July report by the Crime Prevention Research Center, there are over 16.3 million concealed handgun permit holders in the United States. This was a record 1.83 million increase in permits over the previous year.

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To: PROCON
This story is a pile of bullshine. There is t a single conclusion, the two doing the study are marketing and business college professors, not criminology or psychology profs. There isn’t a single data list of events where a concealed carrier saved the self or another where some concealed carry type misfired a weapon or hurt someone by misfiring.

in other words, this story is pap....worthless and meaningless

21 posted on 12/24/2017 7:27:47 AM PST by irish guard
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To: PROCON

We have fire extinguishers placed throughout the house and garage. My risk of burns while extinguishing a fire might be increased, but calling 911 and waiting, most assuredly means major damage to the house.


22 posted on 12/24/2017 7:31:12 AM PST by broken_clock (Go Trump!)
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To: PROCON

keep me on!!!


23 posted on 12/24/2017 7:41:13 AM PST by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The first red flag was “Oregon State University”

Yes, it was.


24 posted on 12/24/2017 7:42:27 AM PST by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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To: broken_clock

And a fire extinguisher might also come in handy for self-defense.


25 posted on 12/24/2017 7:44:18 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: PROCON
Hmmm...I looked up "liberal, gun-grabbing, hand-wringing, cry-baby, snowflake dipshits" and their picture came up.

What a coincidence.

Don't all those gun-grabbers look the same?

I wonder how much of the public funds were wasted for their stupid study?

26 posted on 12/24/2017 7:51:24 AM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: PROCON

How can someone mosidentifye a threa against themselves?If someone approaches you with a weapon drawn on you you should know that the individual is not there to serve coffee and donuts.


27 posted on 12/24/2017 7:54:07 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: PROCON

Aging hippie feminazis trying to prove they are right by “research.” Yeah, sure.


28 posted on 12/24/2017 8:00:44 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: PROCON

Female Oregon State University Business School professors — the first experts you always turn to for advice on self defense and the risks, thereof.


29 posted on 12/24/2017 8:03:24 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: PROCON

To me, 90% of self defense is situational awareness in transitional spaces.

When I go from the store to the car, my eyes and ears are all over the parking lot.

When I am at the gas pump it is only in a good neighborhood and before noon. And, my cc is within reach.

And, when I stop at a traffic light, I pay attention to every car around me. Can they block me in? Are there multiple occupants? Are they sizing me up?

I would never, in a million years, be looking into my phone when I am outside unless it is in my own back yard.

I hope to never have a close call.


30 posted on 12/24/2017 8:09:17 AM PST by anton
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To: PROCON
it does not remove all risk.

It removes 100% of the risk of being a helpless victim of armed violence!

31 posted on 12/24/2017 8:14:08 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: mewzilla
And a fire extinguisher might also come in handy for self-defense.

Ha, yes it would!

I like to use the fire extinguisher analogy with the anti gun people. Everyone agrees with being proactive when fighting a kitchen fire... so... how is that any different with self defense?

32 posted on 12/24/2017 8:15:07 AM PST by broken_clock (Go Trump!)
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To: PROCON; Strac6

Actually, it is a fairly good article and sets up this article as required reading for CCW.

Massad Ayoob’s 10 Commandments Of Concealed Carry
Daily Caller ^ | Massad Ayoob
Posted on 12/24/2017, 7:59:45 AM by Strac6

COMMANDMENT I:

If You Choose To Carry, Always Carry As Much As Possible

Hollywood actors get to see the script beforehand, and nothing is fired at them but blanks. You don’t have either luxury. Criminals attack people in times and places where they don’t think the victims will be prepared for them. It’s what they do. The only way to be prepared to ward off such predators is to always be prepared: i.e., to be routinely armed and constantly ready to respond to deadly threats against you and those who count on you for protection. It’s not about convenience; it’s about life and death.

COMMANDMENT II:

Don’t Carry A Gun If You Aren’t Prepared To Use It

The gun is not a magic talisman that wards off evil. It is a special-purpose emergency rescue tool: no more, no less. History shows us that—for police and for armed citizens alike—the mere drawing of the gun ends the great majority of criminal threats, with the offender either surrendering or running away. However, you must always remember that criminals constitute an armed subculture themselves, living in an underworld awash with stolen, illegal weapons. They don’t fear the gun; they fear the resolutely armed man or woman pointing that gun at them. And, being predators, they are expert judges of what is prey and what is a creature more dangerous to them than what they had thought a moment ago was their prey. Thus, the great irony: the person who is prepared to kill if they must to stop a murderous transgression by a human predator is the person who is least likely to have to do so.

COMMANDMENT III:

Don’t Let The Gun Make You Reckless

Lightweight pseudo-psychologists will tell you that “the trigger will pull the finger,” and your possession of your gun will make you want to kill someone. Rubbish. The gun is no more an evil talisman that turns kindly Dr. Jekyll into evil Mr. Hyde than it is a good talisman that drives off evil. Those of us who have spent decades immersed in the twin cultures of American law enforcement and the responsibly armed citizenry know that the truth is exactly the opposite. A good person doesn’t see their weapon as a supercharger or excuse for aggression, but as brakes that control that natural human emotion. The law itself holds the armed individual to “a higher standard of care,” requiring that they do all that is possible to avoid using deadly force until it becomes clearly necessary. Prepare and act accordingly.

COMMANDMENT IV:

Carry Legally

If you live someplace where there is no provision to carry a gun to protect yourself and your loved ones, don’t let pusillanimous politicians turn you into a convicted felon. Move! It’s a quality of life issue. Rhetorical theory that sounds like “I interpret the law this way, because I believe the law should be this way”—which ignores laws that aren’t that way—can sacrifice your freedom, your status as a gun-owning free American and your ability to provide for your family. If you live where a CCW permit is available, get the damn permit. If you don’t, move to someplace that does. Yes, it is that simple. And if you are traveling, check sources such as handgunlaw.us to make sure that you are legal to carry in the given jurisdiction. Don’t let the legal system make you a felon for living up to your responsibilities to protect yourself and those who count on you. If you carry, make sure you carry legally.

COMMANDMENT V:

Know What You’re Doing

Gunfights are won by those who shoot fastest and straightest, and are usually measured in seconds. Legal aftermaths last for years, and emotional after-maths, for lifetimes. Get educated in depth in the management of all three stages of encounter beforehand.

COMMANDMENT VI:

Concealed Means Concealed

If your local license requires concealed carry, keep the gun truly concealed. The revealing of a concealed handgun is seen in many quarters as a threat, which can result in charges of criminal threatening, brandishing and more. A malevolent person who wants to falsely accuse you of threatening them with a gun will have their wrongful accusation bolstered if the police find you with a gun where they said it was. Yes, that happens. Some jurisdictions allow “open carry.” I support the right to open carry, in the proper time and place, but I have found over the decades that there are relatively few ideal times or places where the practice won’t unnecessarily and predictably frighten someone the carrier had no reason to scare.

COMMANDMENT VII:

Maximize Your Firearms Familiarity

If you ever need that gun, it will happen so quickly and terribly that you’ll have to be swift and sure. If you don’t, you’ll still be handling a deadly weapon in the presence of people you love. Making gun manipulation second nature—safety as well as draw-fire-hit—is thus doubly important.

COMMANDMENT VIII:

Understand The Fine Points

Don’t just read the headlines or editorials, read the fine print. Actually study the laws of your jurisdiction. What’s legal in one place won’t be legal in another. Cities may have prohibitions that states don’t. Remember the principle, “ignorance of the law is no excuse.”

COMMANDMENT IX:

Carry An Adequate Firearm

A motor scooter is a motor vehicle, but it’s a poor excuse for a family car. A .22 or a .25 is a firearm, but it’s a poor excuse for defense. Carry a gun loaded with ammunition that has a track record of quickly stopping lethal assaults. Hint: if your chosen caliber is not used by police or military personnel, it’s probably not powerful enough for its intended purpose.

COMMANDMENT X:

Use Common Sense

Common sense—encompassing ethics and logic and law alike—must be your constant guide and companion when you decide to carry a gun. Not idealism, not rhetoric. When you carry a gun, you literally carry the power of life and death. It is a power that belongs only in the hands of responsible people who care about consequences, and who are respectful of life and limb and human safety—that of others as well as their own.

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33 posted on 12/24/2017 8:18:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP ACT!,)
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To: Grampa Dave; Strac6

Bump, I Pinged this excellent thread/advice, thanks!


34 posted on 12/24/2017 8:21:58 AM PST by PROCON (Merry Christmas and Happy Trump Year!)
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To: PROCON

Don’t Drink and Carry.

That is my observation of others, especially concealed carry in Chicago’s inner city. I’m not aware of a single concealed carry gone wrong while the carrier was sober. But I’ve known and heard of situations where a guy had a couple to drink and did something stupid, most often to himself, but also to his friends and family.


35 posted on 12/24/2017 8:23:45 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: PROCON

Dweebs.


36 posted on 12/24/2017 8:36:19 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: PROCON
gun violence prevention groups are more moderate in ideology than typically portrayed.

I hear Hillary Clinton is a lot nicer and more honest than everyone thinks.

37 posted on 12/24/2017 9:13:55 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The first red flag was “Oregon State University”

Don't rush to judge Oregon on 2A issues.

The boys and girls up in Portland may be super-liberal on social issues, but the state is shall-issue and open carry with no permit is the law of the land.

And, concealed carry is allowed in schools, and state government buildings. Tell me the last time you legally carried in the DMV?

While private buildings can post a sign preventing concealed carry the legal requirements are deceptively tough to meet. Sign must be 12" x 12" and black print on a white background. No one can just print one on a piece of plain paper -- too small. Most signs do not meet the requirement and can be safely ignored.

No, it is not nirvana -- no reciprocity for out of staters, but it beats the hell out of CA, MD, NJ, etc. And for Oregonians, an UT permit gains us a lot of reciprocity. And when I went down to get fingerprints taken for the UT permit, the deputy offered to process an Oregon one.

Plus, when I go hunting I can ride around all day with my rifle next to me. It is not considered loaded until I put a round in the chamber -- I can have the magazine full and ready.

Now tell me how your state stacks up?

38 posted on 12/24/2017 9:18:00 AM PST by CurlyDave
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Hell yes there is a risk...why else would you need to protect yourself? There is a risk getting in the Prius to drive to the antifa protest also....it may catch on fire or get smashed by an 18 wheeler....so are you gonna walk?


39 posted on 12/24/2017 9:37:14 AM PST by TnTnTn
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To: CurlyDave
I lived in Corvallis for 17 years, daughter graduated from OSU, and easily obtained my CHL license. The Benton county Sheriffs were very Pro-2nd Amendment.

Unfortunately, when many people hear 'Oregon', they assume Portlandia.

40 posted on 12/24/2017 9:44:03 AM PST by PROCON (Merry Christmas and Happy Trump Year!)
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