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That Time the U.S. Navy Had a Close Encounter With a UFO (More good info)
popularmechanics.com ^ | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 12/23/2017 3:43:05 AM PST by RoosterRedux

The New York Times on Saturday reported on a mysterious interaction between the U.S. Navy and what could only be called UFOs. The sighting, which took place in 2004, involved a U.S. Navy Aegis cruiser, seven Hornet and Super Hornet strike fighter jets, and a pair of unknown objects. The sighting, which was rumored but unsubstantiated for a decade remains unexplained to this day.

*snip*

According to the Times:

For two weeks, the operator said, the Princeton had been tracking mysterious aircraft. The objects appeared suddenly at 80,000 feet, and then hurtled toward the sea, eventually stopping at 20,000 feet and hovering. Then they either dropped out of radar range or shot straight back up.

[From an excerpt from Carrier Air Wing 11’s event summary for November 14, 2004 at source:]

There are several interesting details about the sighting here. For one, there were clearly two unidentified objects. The first was a large underwater object that was “much larger than a submarine.” For reference, the U.S. Virginia-class nuclear attack submarines are 377 feet long. The object also had some passing resemblance to a “downed airliner.” This was technically a USO, or unidentified swimming object. Although much rarer than UFOs, such craft have been sighted over the years.

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To: Kirkwood

Which part tickles your funny bone?


21 posted on 12/23/2017 4:39:40 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bobalu

Great flick!


22 posted on 12/23/2017 4:40:27 AM PST by V_TWIN (oks like)
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To: RoosterRedux
For two weeks, the operator said, the Princeton had been tracking mysterious aircraft. The objects appeared suddenly at 80,000 feet, and then hurtled toward the sea, eventually stopping at 20,000 feet and hovering. Then they either dropped out of radar range or shot straight back up.

Think about it a bit... For two weeks this was supposedly happening just offthe coast of San Diego but they didn't attempt to bring in major DOD assets to investigate.

23 posted on 12/23/2017 4:41:39 AM PST by fso301
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To: RoosterRedux
The one thing that stands out to me is this:

For two weeks, the operator said, the Princeton had been tracking mysterious aircraft. The objects appeared suddenly at 80,000 feet, and then hurtled toward the sea, eventually stopping at 20,000 feet and hovering.

The specifications of the FA-18 Hornet list their service/combat ceilings as 50,000ft.

Just guessing but the actual max altitude is probably closer to 60,000 ft and even higher for short periods on after burner. Whatever was out there was pretty damned impressive no matter where it came from. Assuming that the reports from the Princeton are accurate; they then hovered at 20,000 ft after performing these aerial gymnastics.

Nice!

24 posted on 12/23/2017 4:43:08 AM PST by Desron13 (E)
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To: fso301
but they didn't attempt to bring in major DOD assets to investigate

We don't actually know what they tried to do.

25 posted on 12/23/2017 4:45:00 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: bagster

Dr John Mack of Harvard (now deceased) has written much on this topic.


26 posted on 12/23/2017 4:46:44 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: JockoManning
Enjoy your skepticism while you can.

Even in a time of intergalactic crisis, people still want to roll them bones.

27 posted on 12/23/2017 4:46:53 AM PST by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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To: bagster
We tried to search the net for the date of the original Harris poll revealing those figures. We haven't yet tracked it down.

That was a very well designed representative sample survey. The UFO part was but a small subset of a larger commissioned poll that was a bit weighted by surveying more decision makers, opinion shapers than would have been strictly representative of the general population.

The questions also were not obviously about UFOs. They merely included factors which were known to be true of abductees that were consistent across many known abductions. e.g. memory issues; missing time issues; physiological issues; psychological factors etc. If we recall correctly, there were 11 or so questions that were about the UFO stuff.

Extrapolating from those answers to the general population--quite reasonable given the quality and design of the survey--it was concluded that a conservative estimate was that there were at least 3 million abductees in the USA alone. We vaguely recall similar results for Canada--with its much smaller population.

There have been other polls since then. There was a period when there seemed to be a lot less abductions going on routinely. We don't recall those dates.

Nevertheless, it appears that at least 1.5 and likely closer to 3% of the general population have been abducted by UFOs.

That times the 350,000,000 general population would actually give a figure of 5,250,000 to 10,500,000 million abductees in the USA alone.

Seriously.

28 posted on 12/23/2017 4:49:29 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

“... rumors that some of the crystal clear, sharp image, close range videos from the archives are going to be published—officially—within the next 30-60 days.”

Unfortunately, that rumor has been around for forty years.

What kind an idiot needs the government to tell them what is real?


29 posted on 12/23/2017 4:50:35 AM PST by Justa
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To: RoosterRedux
We don't actually know what they tried to do

One can infer that very little was done based on the F-18 pilots being on a routine training mission.

30 posted on 12/23/2017 4:51:16 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301
You are arguing from silence. That's hazardous.

All we know for sure is that they are NOT ACKNOWLEDGING that they brought in other assets to scrutinize the goings on.

Also, given all the givens, it is somewhat likely that those pilots etc. and/or others on the carrier were already part of black ops experts on such goings on.

And, at that point in time, such things were really very frequent occurrences. It's doubtful that officials thought much new could be learned from that merely latest of thousands of incidents.

31 posted on 12/23/2017 4:53:01 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Desron13

Quite a number of such craft have been observed to shoot up out of the sea or dive into the sea at incredible speeds—with no observable problem in their doing so. Think about that. A surprising number of those observations have been from carriers.


32 posted on 12/23/2017 4:54:44 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: fso301
"Think about it a bit... For two weeks this was supposedly happening just off the coast of San Diego but they didn't attempt to bring in major DOD assets to investigate.

If you think about it, I doubt they would tell us about any additional "assets" that were brought in to look at this. Just sayin.

33 posted on 12/23/2017 4:55:29 AM PST by Desron13 (E)
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To: RoosterRedux
Quite so. His book is well done and a classic in the field.

His university colleagues got him in a lot of hot water with the university and essentially tried to run him out of town on a rail because of his writing and dabbling in such an "embarrassing" silly field of study.

He involved his atnys and the university backed down reasonably quickly.

34 posted on 12/23/2017 4:56:15 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: fso301
One can infer that very little was done based on the F-18 pilots being on a routine training mission.

I don't see the natural inference of "little being done" from a routine training mission by 2 aircraft.

We have had no report from the Princeton as to what else they might have done or to whom this might have been reported.

35 posted on 12/23/2017 4:56:20 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: bagster
Certainly humor is a useful tool in coping with shocking, as well as fearsome events, objects, critters, happenings etc. We understand that.

We just hope people can also be reality based and grounded in their ponderings on the topic.

36 posted on 12/23/2017 4:57:35 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning
Jocko, I don't wanna be mean. I really don't.

But if you think 3 million Americans were abducted by aliens and then released back into the wild to answer poll questions about it, then I think your mind zigged when it should have zagged.

Nothin' personal, brohaim.

37 posted on 12/23/2017 4:57:49 AM PST by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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To: bagster

Actually, being grounded and spiritually reality based may be extremely critical life and death issues in coming events related to the topic.


38 posted on 12/23/2017 4:58:20 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning
His attorneys and he made an indisputable case for his work at Harvard being within the realm of solid academic pursuit.

His colleagues ended up with facial omelettes.

39 posted on 12/23/2017 4:59:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: JockoManning
If what you are believing and trying to sell is actually true. I think being able to kick ass would be much more useful than being "grounded and spiritually reality based."

Unless we are going to rely on the common cold to save us from them "Serving Man."

40 posted on 12/23/2017 5:02:01 AM PST by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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