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Posted on 12/20/2017 7:01:27 AM PST by Western Phil

Last Saturday or so was the beginning of the Audubon Christmas bird count. More or less coincidently, I started tossing out a little bird food on the patio. Usually I do that a little earlier, but due to global warming and the fact that Atlanta and Long Island have been hogging all our snow, I haven't gotten around to it before now. In the afternoon some birds appeared, most were the usual juncos, some were English sparrows, one chickadee and some crows in the tall trees in the northeast corner of the lot. Those did not come to the patio. Then my wife said there is a blue jay. I did not see a blue jay, but did see something smaller and gray with the head feather thinge. Not being set up to use the Audubon hand gun bird identification technique, I finally remembered my camera and got a not very good picture of one of them. Perusing the bird book resulted in the name "tufted tit-mouse".

Now since there were two of them, did we have tufted tit-mice or tufted tit-mouses?

We had not seen them before.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: sarcasm; titmouse
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To: RegulatorCountry; Hessian

Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretti nasti...


21 posted on 12/20/2017 7:10:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
"I'll take 'tit mice' for 800 Trebek.."


22 posted on 12/20/2017 7:12:10 AM PST by bar sin·is·ter (Climate Scientology - another example of science fiction morphing into a religious cult)
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To: PIF

I’d post a flashing red sarc tag on it for you if I could.


23 posted on 12/20/2017 7:12:20 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Western Phil

Titmice
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Tufted_Titmouse/id#


24 posted on 12/20/2017 7:13:05 AM PST by Babwa
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To: Western Phil

Make it simple, just call them two boobies......


25 posted on 12/20/2017 7:13:11 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I think they call that a pearl necklace


26 posted on 12/20/2017 7:14:47 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Western Phil
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/titmouse

Merriam-Webster gives "titmice", but purists argue that the "mouse" in "titmouse" is unrelated to the word "mouse".

Origin and Etymology of titmouse

by folk etymology from Middle English titmose, from *tit any small object or creature + mose titmouse, from Old English māse; akin to Old High German meisa titmouse

Origin and Etymology of mouse

Middle English, from Old English mūs; akin to Old High German mūs mouse, Latin mus, Greek mys mouse, muscle

So "titmouse" is a compound of older words for "little" or "wee" and "titmouse". The root of titmouse coming from the Old English "mose", the root of mouse coming from Old English "mūs". The modern dictionary plural respects the folk etymology making it titmice, though there is no etymological justification for the irregular plural.

27 posted on 12/20/2017 7:15:52 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: mewzilla

According to Snaglepuss


28 posted on 12/20/2017 7:17:45 AM PST by Wu (Excuse me while I kiss the sky......)
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To: Western Phil

I can’t get beyond wondering why you would name anything a tit-mouse.


29 posted on 12/20/2017 7:17:48 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: Western Phil

I have heard people use the singular as plural- two tufted titmouse. one can’t avoid sounding awkward. Titmouses sounds the most awkward and titmice would elicit a bit of a smirk. “Those birds” avoids all that but is less explicit than sometimes necessary. I would go with “titmice” though I also tend to use “meese” to pluralize moose. Grice?


30 posted on 12/20/2017 7:18:56 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Western Phil
Saw some at our feeder this week. Had to look it up.


31 posted on 12/20/2017 7:19:12 AM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I said in not on.


32 posted on 12/20/2017 7:19:17 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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To: Wu

LOL! I think we just dated ourselves!


33 posted on 12/20/2017 7:19:21 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: PIF

Only for the sarcasm impaired.


34 posted on 12/20/2017 7:19:47 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Western Phil

Don’t know, but what about computer mouses? or mice?
Actualy, I don’t really care.


35 posted on 12/20/2017 7:20:50 AM PST by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that escapes scrutiny by hiding behind the facade of religion.)
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To: Western Phil

“’Peep!’ said the tit-mice when they awoke”

Quoted from memory (I’d have to look it up).
Bambi, Felix Salten.


36 posted on 12/20/2017 7:20:53 AM PST by thecodont
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To: csvset

I wonder why it’s not a crested tit-mouse...


37 posted on 12/20/2017 7:21:05 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Western Phil

boob mouses


38 posted on 12/20/2017 7:21:43 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Western Phil

From “Ask the Bird Experts” http://www.birdsandblooms.com/blog/titmouses-titmice-ask-bird-experts/

“The word titmouse doesn’t have any connection to the rodent. Instead, the second syllable is based on the Old English word mase, which means “small bird.” Technically, there’s no reason why mouse and mice should match titmouse and titmice. A purist would probably say titmouses is correct. On the other hand, a couple of major dictionaries (and bird guides) give titmice as plural. So you can probably get away with either.”


39 posted on 12/20/2017 7:22:02 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Red Badger

Very interesting.
I learn so much on FR. But I also have learned a lot from Internet. Amazing what the Internet has opened for me.


40 posted on 12/20/2017 7:22:06 AM PST by Karoo
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