"....ya know ya just opened the flood gates don'tcha"
Posted on 12/19/2017 5:19:54 AM PST by simpson96
Stage and screen star Sir Ian McKellen has spoken out about the sex scandal in film and theatre,claiming women are partly responsible because some tell directors they'll sleep with them to win roles.
'People must be called out and it's sometimes very difficult for victims to do that,' the Lord Of The Rings star said in a talk at the Oxford Union recently.
'I hope we're going through a period that will help to eradicate it altogether. But from my own experience, when I was starting acting in the early Sixties, the director of the theatre I was working at showed me some photographs he got from women who were wanting jobs. . . some of them had at the bottom of their photograph 'DRR' — directors' rights respected. In other words, if you give me a job, you can have sex with me.
'That was commonplace from people who proposed that they should be a victim. Madness. People have taken advantage of that and encouraged it and it absolutely will not do.'
Despite his support for victims coming forward, the six-time Olivier Award-winner, 78, admitted he's worried about the impact of wrongful accusations, adding: 'I assume nothing but good will come out of these revelations, even though some people get wrongly accused — there's that side of it as well.'
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Partly? When it comes to the “casting couch”, the guilt is mutual, and the only victims are the actresses who we never hear of because they don’t trade their favors for major roles and thus don’t get major roles. When it comes to force, the victims are the women raped, and they are not to blame.
In some cases, he’s right. Ashley “I’m a nasty woman” Judd wasn’t quite so nasty to Harvey Weinstein’s advances when she knew a starring role was on the line.
I’ve heard accused sex harasser Harry Knowles say that Ian gets off on having boys coming up to him at “comic book” conventions.
Old queer.
There are straight actors who are put on the casting couch for male employers just to get ahead. And they aren’t all young boys who don’t know better (or are doped).
I’m betting that this is the reason Miss Butt-Ugly Meryl Streep remembers nothing.
Even them, some probably turned her down
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/7222904/Sir-Ian-McKellen-facing-embarrassment-over-former-theatre-guild-member-with-paedophile-conviction.html
Sir Ian McKellen facing embarrassment over former theatre guild member with paedophile conviction (2010)
Sir Ian McKellen, who this week claimed government anti-paedophile measures are excessive, is facing embarrassment after the discovery that a former member of his theatre guild was jailed for having a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.
Sir Ian, The Lord of the Rings and X-Men actor, who is patron of the Little Theatre Guild, which represents more than 100 British theatres, earlier this week said that the Government’s new antipaedophile database, was unnecessary for theatres and that “there has never in the last 50 years been any hint of wrongdoing”...
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http://ew.com/article/1997/05/02/indecent-proposal-set-apt-pupil/
Was an indecent proposal made on Bryan Singer’s Apt Pupil set? (Entertainment Weekly 2010)
April 16 was not a good day for director Bryan Singer. On his way to the Sherman Oaks, Calif., set of Apt Pupil, his first film since The Usual Suspects, he got a flat tire on the Pacific Coast Highway. He dragged himself through a long shooting day while suffering from the flu and didn’t take a break until 6 p.m. And when he sat down to dinner with screenwriter Brandon Boyce, a crew member whispered some very bad news in his ear: A 14-year-old extra named Devin St. Albin had filed a lawsuit claiming that the filmmakers had ordered him and other minors to strip for a scene that was shot in the showers of a school locker room.
Two weeks earlier, on the morning of April 2, a dozen-odd extras had arrived at the gymnasium of Altadena’s Elliot Middle School to shoot a scene from Apt Pupil, the Stephen King adaptation starring Brad Renfro as a teenager obsessed with a Nazi war criminal (Ian McKellen). What actually happened after the extras entered the locker room has now become the subject of two lawsuits — two more boys are now supporting St. Albin’s claim — and the centerpiece of an ongoing argument about the rights and welfare of child actors.
According to St. Albin, a 17-year-old plaintiff named Ryan Glomboske, and Peter Gordon, the attorney for a third minor, 16-year-old David Stockdale, the boys — local high school athletes recruited by the production — were asked to bring bathrobes to the set to film a nightmare sequence in which shower stalls turn into gas chambers. While the parents of the minors sat in the gym, the extras — who ranged in age from adolescents to geriatrics — were led into a locker room and instructed to change into sheer peach-colored G-strings provided by the wardrobe department. ”Nobody really said anything, but we looked at each other. We were uncomfortable,” says St. Albin. ”You could hear everyone saying ‘What the heck is that?”’ Glomboske remembers. ”People were nervous.”
According to St. Albin and Glomboske (who is joining his suit), the extras, wearing their robes over the G-strings, were ushered past the parents into the shower-room set, where they were told to take off their bathrobes. Then, say St. Albin and Glomboske, they were asked by assistant directors Fernando Altschul and Tom DeSantos to remove their G-strings.
”I looked around for help, for someone to say, ‘There are minors here,”’ says St. Albin. ”I raised my hand and said I wasn’t comfortable. The assistant director looked very upset and said, ‘I guess we can switch you with this other kid.’ They gave me a towel to put on over the G-string” and moved him out of clear sight, next to the lockers.
Glomboske says that he moved closer to a shower head to shield himself but, unlike the other extras, did not remove his G-string. After filming the scene, Glomboske says he was approached by a frustrated assistant director, who asked him why he hadn’t undressed. ”I said I was a minor,” says Glomboske, who asserts that after an informal conference between crew members about what one of them called ”a minor problem,” he was assured that it was not illegal for him to be filmed nude.
But Glomboske says legalities weren’t foremost on his mind at the moment he was asked to unclothe. “If they had taken me aside, it would have been one thing,” says Glomboske. But “they got frustrated and came back and asked me in front of everyone if I minded taking it off. I felt like I would have been a wuss if I hadn’t.” All three teenagers are claiming trauma from the experience, charging the filmmakers with, among other things, infliction of emotional distress, negligence, and invasion of privacy.
Plumbers, doctors, lawyers, electricians, carpenter’s,......all use tools to do their job. Hollywood and entertainment professionals use their tools as well. It is hard to find an ethical and moral base line in a trade which discounts both. Politics by proxy as well.
I recall a scene from Californication where the actress threw herself at Hank during her audition. IRL he should have said no but it strains credulity to think that a) most men would have the willpower to say no and b) that it doesn’t happen on a frequent basis.
I don’t endorse the behavior but I am sick and tired of the misandry.
"....ya know ya just opened the flood gates don'tcha"
Gives a new meaning to the term “acting”. they must be pretty bad actors if they need to “trade” (sell) themselves just to get a role in some stupid movie. Instead of calling them “actresses”, why not ‘film whores’?
“Instead of calling them “actresses”, why not ‘film whores’?”........
They definitely become very high paid “Film whores” at that!
Sir Ian McKellen’s ex-partner claims he was forced into sex act by ‘very powerful’ director who threatened to end career if he ‘didn’t play along’
Sean Mathias said he felt “shame and weakness” after being targeted as a 19 or 20-year-old
...The director of Bent and No Man’s Land started his career and an actor and said it was made “perfectly clear” that his future in the industry would be harmed if he did not go along with the man’s demands.
He had been bullied when his was young for being effeminate, which he said had left him “very frightened”.
He told Radio 4’s Today programme: “So, if anybody forced themselves on me in any way, I felt it probably was safer for me to give in to that.
“Later on a very powerful man who could influence my career took me out for dinner and after dinner suggested we go back to his office, which I found fairly alarming, alarm bells went off, but I thought he was trying to be nice and kind.
“We went back to his office and he coerced me into a sexual act with him and making it perfectly clear that if played along my career would go in the right direction and if I didn’t it would not.
“And I did play along that time and felt terrible shame and weakness and vulnerability for it and didn’t talk about it for years and years and I’ve hardly talked about it. I was 19 or 20.”
This happens in academia also. Women trade sexual favors or flirt for good grades. I saw women with big breasts shove them in front of the gullible professors to gain favor with them. Some of the women slept with the professors for good grades. I once fell out of favor with a resident when I told him to pay attention to teaching us instead of trying to get his wick wet on our time. He retaliated by giving me a “D” for the course that I didn’t deserve. Later after I graduated and he was teaching at another university at another state of which I was now a practice owner he mentioned that “let by gones be by gones”. Yea, he did because the shoe was on the other foot. I let it go. The “D” didn’t prevent me from becoming a veterinarian.
Ian always struck me as a little scary. Like “you don’t want to be alone with him” scary. I lived my entire young life around gays (literally) and I never felt any fear. But older gay men can be pushy, especially when you are a boy who looks like Mia Farrow. I made it a point to never be alone with anyone I suspected was that way.
He has no right to comment on male/female relations.
Go smoke your pipe, Mithrandir. (p> p.s. I just thought of a good one.
Gandalf the Gay!!!!!!
O I do crack myself up.
I remember a good friend who was a professor talking about a young co ed who came to his office about her grade, she told him she’d do ANYTHING to get a passing grade
He said “ ANYTHING?”
She batted her eyes and said “ yes”
And he roared “ Then STUDY!’
His wife was also a character
She was taking one of his classes
Another student told he he was worried about the final
She said “I’m net worried because I’ m sleeping with the Professor!”
Sex advice from a withered old fag. Yep, that’s credible.
There actresses Jim..
What would an old fag like him know about such things?...............
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