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Arizona's 8th Congressional District special election
Ballotpedia ^ | 14 Dec 2017 | Ballotpedia

Posted on 12/14/2017 8:22:54 PM PST by KC Burke

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To: KC Burke; AuH2ORepublican

I like Auho’s idea in post #51 even better. Appoint Gosar to the McCain vacancy and let Ward waltz into Gosar’s safe House seat, if she’d be willing to switch to that race she’d be in like Flynn.

Swallowing McSally is not ideal but I believe she is a strong candidate at least and probably not all THAT bad.

Graham was mentioned in news articles as recently as a month ago and has ever declined interest.

Hopefully Lea Marquez-Peterson can hold McSally’s House seat against that seat hopping monster Ann Bitchpatrick.

I’m not well versed in the candidates for the 8th. Is that Bob Stump’s son running?


61 posted on 12/16/2017 5:34:33 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; BillyBoy; Hildy; LS

Well, DJ, I hope that you’re happy with Senator Cortez Masto from Nevada. You won’t have to worry about the 20% of the time in which a Senator Heck wouldn’t vote with us, since Cortez Masto won’t vote with us 90% of the time.

Oh, and the Swamp ain’t getting drained if we’re in the minority. President Trump is making great progress with judicial nominees, but only because there are 52 (it will be down to 51 when Jones is sworn in) Republicans in the Senate; if we only had 48 Republican Senators instead, either Trump would have ended up nominating someone suggested by Chuck Schumer or Scalia’s seat still would be vacant.

I frankly couldn’t care less about Kelli Ward’s intestinal fortitude if she’s going to display it while losing to a liberal Democrat in a U.S. Senate race. Martha McSally has proven that she can win tough races, including getting 57% in a district carried by Hillary over Trump by a 5% margin, and in 2017 she has voted the same as President Trump’s position 96.4% of the time (and one of her votes that went contrary to Trump’s position was when she voted for sanctions against North Korea, Iran and Russia, for which I would have voted as well. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/martha-mcsally/ I reiterate my support for Martha McSally for the U.S. Senate and Kelli Ward for the U.S. House (from AZ-04).


62 posted on 12/16/2017 7:18:39 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Impy; KC Burke; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; Hildy; LS

I read somewhere that the Stump who is running for Franks’s seat is not related to the former congressman. The frontrunner in that race, were she to get in, is state Senate Majority Leader Kimberly Yee, but she hasn’t decided one way or another.

My favorite among those who already are running in the AZ-08 race is state Senator Steve Montenegro. Prior to his state Senate service, he served as state House Majority Leader, so his record is extensive. Montenegro appears to be a conservative’s conservative on every issue, and has the record to prove that he not only talks the talk, but also walks the walk: https://stevemontenegro.com In particular, check out his issue positions on immigration; having a Hispanic Republican congressman from Arizona going on both English- and Spanish-language media supporting the construction of a physical border wall with Mexico and opposing amnesty for illegal aliens would make liberals’ heads explode.

The AZ-08 is safely conservative Republican, so we don’t have to worry about nominating someone who is too conservative for the district. Steve Montenegro would be a fine successor to the great Trent Franks, and could be a good U.S. Senate or gubernatorial candidate after a few years in the U.S. House.


63 posted on 12/16/2017 7:47:04 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Hildy

That’s a one-liner worthy of the great Deb.


64 posted on 12/17/2017 2:33:05 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Impy

Missed your question about Bob Stump.

There are/were two Bob Stumps — unrelated.

The famous compatriot of Goldwater, Bob Stump now deceased is unrelated to the younger Bob Stump.

The younger Bob Stump is quite a comer. After time in the Arizona legislature, he was a state-wide Corporation Commissioner that many credit for keeping green-nazi environmentalists away from Arizona power and utilities to a great degree. Conservative Republican and occasional writer for National Review he lamented Trump’s candidacy and did not support him in the fight for the nomination.

Stump is serving as president of the Symphony, and he still disparages Trump with off handed compliments. All that being said, it is little different from a few around here I could name that are pretty solid guys, just could never warm to Trump.

Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t follow the guy and have never met him as I am fairly new to Arizona. He could have a lot less in common with Flake than I am implying. Those in the know (really knowledgeable) both say he is a pretty damn good guy and while not their pick today, is a strong candidate should he commit to the 8th Primary. He is leading local polls this week.


65 posted on 12/17/2017 9:39:11 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Your post is what the ideal thread contribution looks like, LOL.

You have really given us some good insight why he is a top candidate to consider.


66 posted on 12/17/2017 9:43:15 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

I’m very unhappy with Cortez-Castro and Maggie Hussein in NH, I sure wish that “RINO *itch” Kelly Ayotte was still in the Senate.


67 posted on 12/17/2017 9:44:10 AM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I do want to bring up again the odd circumstance of this election timing really giving an unfortunate impact to the “Resign to Run” law in Arizona that says if you are not in the last year of an office in or representing Arizona, you have to resign to run (take?) a new one.

A big field due to the Feb primary and April general, will knock out a number of good guys from good offices they might be depending on to feed a family.

Those running for the Senate are normally financially somewhat past this issue but for 8th district it is a really concern.


68 posted on 12/17/2017 9:47:51 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: KC Burke; AuH2ORepublican

Thanks.

Seems you have several good choices for the seat. Must be nice. ;d


69 posted on 12/17/2017 9:48:13 AM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy; DLfromthedesert; Hildy; LS

We have some good choices and Arizona has always been a fountain of conservative wisdom, but it is wisdom with a wild independent streak. We have the later years of Goldwater to consider along with the false impressions that allowed us to elect McCain and Flake.

I think Trent was a solid vote but I don’t know if he really really led like he could have based upon his time in the Congress.

DL, Hildy, LS are the real natives that are political people that know some of these people. What they say is going to carry a lot of weight with me when I begin my selection in early January.


70 posted on 12/17/2017 10:19:03 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Hildy

Heck proved himself to be a “Flake”, he refused to support dismantling DACA and then he jumped on the Never Trumper train. When you end up with a contest between a regular leftist Democrat and a Scum Willard type, I refuse to support either. Cortez Matzo is a puppet of Dingy Reid’s and has been since she was AG, so I’m certainly not “happy” with that fraud. Heck is a gutless weasel squish, and as I’ve said countless times, I will not support these types for office, period.

In almost every instance where I’ve opposed an odious RINO, before long, it becomes apparent that my “gut feeling” about them is proven to be correct. Folks chided me about Flake, and I was proven right. The same goes for McSally and the problems she will cause in the Senate.

You might as well beg Flake to run for reelection, because his voting record is better than McSally’s. She is an active part of the Flake-McQueeg Establishment, which needs to be utterly destroyed, and promoting her to the Senate to continue that agenda is utter madness.

I’m with Dr. Ward 100%, and I hope she obliterates McSally in the primary.


71 posted on 12/17/2017 10:32:45 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Impy

Ayotte might still be there had she not “Flake’d” out while in the Senate. Curiously that no matter how Conservative a state is, their Democrat Senators will almost always stick to the leftist agenda and their candidates. Yet we can’t even get our Republicans in Republican or marginal states to not go squish. And is it any shock when they lose ? It shouldn’t be.


72 posted on 12/17/2017 10:37:04 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It was a stolen election. Trump lost the state by an almost identical margin.


73 posted on 12/17/2017 10:38:58 AM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican

If there had been a few less “gutless weasels” in the Senate then Merrick Garland, or worse would be in on the SC now.

Control Control, you must have Control. Anyone in NH who didn’t vote for Ayotte in November (after she face no primary challenger of consequence) cause she wasn’t Jesse Helms is a GD FOOL and foolishness is our enemy.

Only 51 now, no flutzing around. You want someone more conservative of course but a conservative loser and a RINO loser are the same thing, people that will not be Senators and who therefore are useless. Angle would have been certain to lose NV. Heck lost by the same margin Trump lost the state.

You vote in the primary for the most conservative candidate who’s a good bet to Get nominated and ELECTED and then for the nominee in November, period. No emotion. Every time a democrat is elected to the Senate an Angel gets gang-raped by BLM activists. A rat Senate confirms no good judges, has a zero% chance of passing anything good, insists on higher spending, and spends all it’s time having anti-Trump hearings.


74 posted on 12/17/2017 11:03:38 AM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy

Probably was, but she shouldn’t have pissed off the people who put her in office. She could’ve won by a relatively comfortable margin of at least 5%+ had she not “Flake’d” out.


75 posted on 12/17/2017 11:22:23 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That much ahead of Trump?


76 posted on 12/17/2017 11:24:06 AM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy

These RINOs put us in this position by their refusal to be Conservatives. Their default setting is to run left, they can’t help it. That’s why keeping them the F*** out of office is paramount. I’m beyond done with them.


77 posted on 12/17/2017 11:24:45 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Impy

As an incumbent ? Sure, why not ? Republicans pandering left have nothing to gain electorally. The Democrats always outflank them on that. You just end up losing your own base and fully deserve to. Stand firm like a rock. If you do lose, you go down with your character and integrity intact and the support of the base to boot to make another run again. How many people have been clamoring to run Ayotte again and talking about how wonderful and courageous she is ? No one.


78 posted on 12/17/2017 11:30:31 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican

The only incumbents with real challengers that ran that far ahead of Trump were Portman and McCain......not exactly conservatives. Oh and Rubs, 6.5 points ahead by margin, you’re a big fan of him right? ;-D

Ticket splitting in on the way out.

I would certainly rather see Ayotte run again than Sharron Angle, cripes.

There are loses and then there are loses. Losers who lose because they can’t run a good race should go the hell away instead of losing races for us again. I like winning.


79 posted on 12/17/2017 11:51:38 AM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy

What are you winning exactly ? Because the damage RINOs inflict far outweigh the damage Dems do.


80 posted on 12/17/2017 12:11:39 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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