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To: IncPen; generally

It makes not a whit of difference that this event occurred days from her birthday, or just before Christmas
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Used to be a ‘big debate’ when it came to laying off or firing employees (Asphalt Co in Northern Virginia)
We used to shut down just before Thanksgiving and open up around Apr 1 with Supervisors and Operators paid for ‘working’ around the office, plant and shop.
If County need ‘emergency’ repair the Sups and Ops were manning the shovels and equipment during the ‘down time’.

We ran into a period where weather stayed good and we almost worked year around...

The question of when to fire someone was always tricky.
If you
‘fired’ or let go from
Sep - Nov, the excuse was ‘I paid for a big summer vacation thinking I had a job’.

Dec - Feb, I wouldn’t have spent all that on Christmas.

Mar-Jun - You are firing me when I can’t get another job as no one is hiring new at this time.

Jun-Sep - If I would have know you were going to fire me I would have taken that job with ????????

SO, there is NEVER a ‘good time’ to fire someone on THEIR TERMS... Just do it and don’t look back.

MY strategy was to pay them as soon as possible after firing. (Which ‘my people’ balked at saying ‘they’ would use that as an excuse to get paid early. MY comment to that was... Fine, Just don’t hire them back)

Let them go off and get something else, don’t give them a week or so to stew, then show up and looking for check with an ‘attitude’, GET THEM AWAY FROM YOUR BUSINESS ASAP.
If possible give a ‘fair’ reference when someone inquires about them...

Since the era I am talking about it is ‘against the law’ to give a ‘bad reference’ or talk in cryptic terms about their time with you.

Again, you want them ‘hired’ by others to get them OFF your unemployment roles....(for the most part UE was paid no matter the circumstances...I guess mostly because a company didn’t want to ‘shut down’ for a day so witnesses could ‘testify’ at the hearing)

The BIG BAD CORPS are ALWAYS wrong when it comes to employees complaints......or so it seems.


22 posted on 12/14/2017 2:15:12 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)""In todays world:::WE, THE USofA are Rudyard Kiplings 'Tommy'")
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To: xrmusn

Great points.

One thing people don’t consider is that a poor employee is taking the job of someone who could do better. No one ever remembers to have sympathy for the unemployed person who will now be able to move into the vacant job.

BTW, all those excuses you listed indicate to me that the person is a poor planner. If you are living paycheck to paycheck and spending money you haven’t yet made, without an emergency savings account, then I also question whether you are smart enough to be a good employee.


24 posted on 12/14/2017 3:51:52 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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