Will the Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Ever Be Probed by Federal Authorities?

The Post & Email ^ | 12/7/2017 | Sharon Rondeau

[Fantasywriter]

You are too blinded by your love for Obama to see the painfully obvious. As a radical Leftist, you should be ashamed of misusing Mr. Robinson’s site the way you do, and have done for many years.

[Natufian]

Don't be ridiculous, archive is a noun referring to recorded material, in other words a layman's synonym. You really think that because he used the word archives instead of vital records that Fukino is lying through her teeth?

You really are clinging to those hidden signs that only you can see, aren't you? All the while ignoring those inconvenient statements from the actual public guardian of the HA DOH records. Classic conspiracy theorist behaviour.

Wait, don't tell me...Fukino is a shill for the conspiracy? Am I right? Right up there with ninja frogmen.

[Natufian]

Save your keyboard. I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about your opinions about me. You’re too heavily medicated to be taken seriously.

[Disestablishmentarian]

>>Didn’t Trump already have it investigates as a civilian and pronounce it legit?<<

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President Trump knows there is no longer any benefit, TO ANYONE, should Obama be proved born in Kenya and ineligible to have been POTUS (Due to age and marital status of his mother, he would not even have been a citizen, much less Natural Born).

It would not change anything. Supreme Court would be compelled to uphold legislation he signed etc. It would just weaken faith in the system and possibly set a precedent for future violations of the Constitution to be tolerated.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2040486/posts

Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

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[Fred Nerks]

Sadly, I think you’re right. Any further discussion is purely of academic interest.
Keeping it nice and simple, it appears that on the very day Virginia Sunahara’s Death Announcement appeared on the 8th of August, a document was lodged with the local registrar for the birth of a child with the name of Barack Hussein Obama 11, naming the parents as Ann Dunham Obama (Stanley) and Barack Hussein Obama. Race, African.

The Sunahara child lived only one day, she hadn’t been named. Her record showed her as Tomio Sunahara, the name of her father, and the Death Notice showed her name as Tomio.

Her Death Notice was amended on August 29, to show her name as Virginia. A COLB raised on the same date, shows her name as Virginia Sunahara. (I guess her parents didn’t want to bury her without the name they had chosen for her.)

So little Virginia’s BC number was 400plus numbers out of sequence with her birth. What happened to her original birth records from her birth on the 4th of August, is anyone’s guess...she was born at Wahiawa Hospital, and I’m thinking that whoever was responsible for the fraud, believed Virginia was born at Kapiolani because she DIED there. That is what caused the BC we are discussing, to be FOUR digits out of sequence.

But her brother has been blocked from obtaining a Long Form Birth Certificate for his sister.

Ladysforest, you may wish to add to this, but it’s probably not worth the aggravation. No one did more than you did, to get to the bottom of what happened in this regard.

The various regional registrars (according to The Daily Pen) forwarded their BC’s to the HDOH in batches, and that’s how they were entered and numbered. There were four births at Wahiawa on that day, but the fake ended up in the Kapiolani basket...like VK Lee said, iirc, the documents were placed in baskets and entered in order of dates.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3033738/posts?q=1&;page=301

previous discussion

[Ladysforest]

Her birth cert and death cert would have gone out. The name change would have been an amendment - not generating a new bc.

I haven’t looked over my stuff in a long while. Her number should not have been so out of sequence.

[4Zoltan]

Nowhere in that article does it say he refused to certify Obama. In fact it says they followed Hawaiian law.

“In 2008, Schatz, then serving as head of the Democratic Party in Hawaii and a spokesman for Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, entered the Obama birth certificate controversy. He declined to request from the Hawaii Department of Health documented proof Obama was eligible to run for president, as evidenced by an original record of Obama’s 1961 birth records, which are kept under wraps in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.”

“Hawaii law requires each party to specify in writing that the presidential candidate is constitutionally eligible.”

“As WND reported, then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, in her capacity as chairwoman of the Democratic National Convention, provided the required certification by submitting to the Hawaii specifying Obama that specified Obama was eligible, a representation Pelosi omitted on the certifications submitted for Obama in the other 49 states.”

[Fred Nerks]

Right, her BC number should NOT have been over 400 digits out of sequence, the NUMBER on the COLB just happens to correspond to the date on the AMENDED DEATH CERTIFICATE.

So the birthdate on the COLB is her birthdate, but the COLB wasn't raised until the same date the death certificate was amended.

It looks as if they couldn't find a birth record for August 4, so the HDOH raised the COLB on the 29th. Like I said, it's probably academic now, what makes it suspicious is the HDOH refusing to provide her brother with a LFBC.

That Date Filed by Registrar is meaningless. The difference in the numbers between her COLB and that of zero, is 439. At the average number of some 40+ births per day, according to Hawaii birth records, that means the COLB was raised two weeks after the birth of Virginia, corresponding to the amended Death Certificate.

One could say that the Death Certificate generated the need for her birth certificate...and they couldn't find one!

Perhaps that's where Zullo got his mystical 400 from.

Thanks for the response, I think I'll leave it there. It's just too complicated for most people to follow, they seem to all want easy, quick and smart alecky one liners.

I'm done! Anyone who really wants to follow, can read your research to which I posted the link.

[Fantasywriter]

Here is a much more detailed account. The fraud reached ridiculous levels.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2011/04/13/eligibility-obama-questionable-official-certification-of-nomination-ocon/

[Fantasywriter]

So now you are saying “archives,” actually means, “vital records.”

The word for that is, “psychotic.”

[4Zoltan]

Thanks, I wasn’t watching this stuff that far back.

Here’s the original isrealinsider article but it says that McKinnon’s birth certificate does not have a cert number.

“Both images lack two salient characteristics present in the Barack Obama birth certificate images claimed by the Daily Kos blog and Obama’s “Fight the Smears” site. The Field under CERTIFICATE NO is blank whereas on the purported “Obama birth certificate” that area is blacked out as if to conceal a real number. In addition, the two documents posted to the opendna account lack the reversed date (June 6, 2007) that appears at the bottom of the purported “Obama birth certificate.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20080705165843/http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12956.htm

That copy of the sire is from July 5th, 2008. Zullo said it had the correct certificate number.

[Ladysforest]

Don’t know what you mean by “raised” the colb.

[Fred Nerks]

...but the COLB wasn't raised until the same date the death certificate was amended.

Produced it. On the 29th when the amendment took place, there had been 439 births since 10641.

10641 + 439 = 11080

[4Zoltan]

At the July 12th, 2012 press conference Zullo said that Verna Lee told them that the certificates were collected for the month, separated by geographic region and then numbered.

Here are Hawai’s Geographic regions:

Obama is in the Honolulu region and Sunahara was born in the Balance of County region.

Honolulu Geographic Region

Johann Ah’Nee – 00945 8/23/1961, Kapiolani Hospital

Henderson, Bruce – 10286 – 8/25/1961, Kaiser Foundation Hospital

Nordyke, Susan – 10637 – 8/5/1961, Kapiolani Hospital

Nordyke, Gretchen – 10638- 8/5/1961, Kapiolani Hospital

Obama, Barack – 10641- 8/4/1961, Kapiolani Hospital

Waidelich, Stig – 10920- 8/5/1961, Kapiolani Hospital

Balance of County Geographic Region

Sunahara, Virginia – 11080 – 8/4/1961, Wahiawa General Hospital

[Fred Nerks]

I’ve never taken a lot of notice of what Zullo might have said. He’s just another one late to the party imo. He might have learned a lot had he read some of the early FR articles/threads.

[Fred Nerks]

At the July 12th, 2012 press conference Zullo said that Verna Lee told them that the certificates were collected for the month, separated by geographic region and then numbered.

Now ask yourself what might happen if one birth record from the Wahiawa Hospital was removed, and replaced with a fake record for a birth at Kapiolani. The Kapiolani batch would then include a birth record that didn't belong there

Balance of County Geographic Region Sunahara, Virginia – 11080 – 8/4/1961, Wahiawa General Hospital

On that day, she hadn't been named Virginia yet. Her name would still have been Tomio, the name of her father. She wasn't Virginia until August 29. Take the time to think about it. It took me a long long time...if you've got a better idea, share it, but don't quote me people who are fumbling in the dark and can't remember if a piece of paper had a number or not.

[Fred Nerks]

Date Filed by Registrar, August 8, 1961. Just by coincidence, the very same date the TOMIO Sunahara death notice appeared in the Honolulu press.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

[4Zoltan]

Stig Waidelich’s birth certicate - DOB August 5, 1961. Date Filed August 8th, 1961