Posted on 12/04/2017 9:46:01 AM PST by Retain Mike
USS LAKE CHAMPLAIN (CG 57) collided with fishing vessel NAM YANG 502 on 9 May 2017 in the Sea of Japan
LAKE CHAMPLAIN is a Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruiser homeported in San Diego, California. Approximately 400 Sailors serve aboard LAKE CHAMPLAIN. LAKE CHAMPLAIN is 567 feet in length, 55 feet wide, and carries a gross tonnage of approximately 10,200 tons.
NAM YANG 502 is a fishing vessel with an unknown crew size. NAM YANG 502 is approximately 60 feet in length, 15 feet wide, and carries a gross tonnage of approximately 10 tons. NAM YANG 502 was en route to the Republic of Korea prior to the collision.
The collision between LAKE CHAMPLAIN and NAM YANG 502 resulted in no injuries. Each vessel sustained minor hull damage.
Summary of Findings
The Navy determined that numerous failures occurred on the part of watchstanders as follows:
• Failure to execute basic watchstanding practices.
• Failure to adhere to sound navigation practices.
• Failure to properly use available navigation tools.
• Failure to respond deliberately and effectively when in extremis.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.usni.org ...
I remember seeing those destroyers tied up in Yokosuka. I was onboard an LST homeported there from May 1970 through December 1971. I qualified as OOD(F) and cannot imagine how any OOD would not miss that vessel. That sounds like T-boning another car in a parking lot with yours.
Are you kidding? They abolished SWO school?
Yup, I understand that fresh ensigns right out of their commissioning are literally given a stack of CD’s and told to report to ships of the line. The skipper is then responsible for their training.
Are you kidding? They abolished SWO school?
Yup, I understand that fresh ensigns right out of their commissioning are literally given a stack of CD’s and told to report to ships of the line. The skipper is then responsible for their training
That’s a *bad* idea.
Forget this error. I’m on a new blood thinner and sometimes I miss read.
I saw the CG and my brain thought that it meant Coast Guard.
God gave them eyes. Use them.
I toured a Navy CG cruiser a few months ago. The chief told me that he gets recruits straight out of boot camp and he puts them on watch duty.
60' length x 15' beam x 4' (estimated) draft gives a displacement 'box' of 3,600 ft3, or about 100 m3. 100 m3 is 100 metric tons.
Even knocking off the tapered bow and rounded chines, the displacement still is WAY more than 10 tons.
Do neither reporters nor editors know how to think any more?
That makes so much sense.
What happened to Personal Qualification Standards, and having to shadow watchstanders, and boards of review?
may also have his face in something else
Once again, poor leadership, lack of supervision, improper watchstanding, lack of familiarity with standing orders. It snowballs, leading to these collisions. Unlike the previous accidents that occurred in major shipping lanes, this was in broad daylight on the open sea. How do you not have watchstanders in the required positions?
Where are the petty officers? LPOs ? Chiefs? CIC doesn’t bother to call the bridge ?
You think someone would asked out loud, “WTF are we doing about this fishing boat?”
I am completely flummoxed by how this happens. I mean, if you have to stand a watch on a bridge wing, and you see a 60 foot fishing boat bearing down on you, don’t you say something like “Bridge: Port wing watch, we have a fishing vessel at 110 degrees, do you verify?” or something like that?
You don’t just see it assume “Well, they have it covered on the bridge, they have the radar and all...”
I simply do not understand this, and the more I hear of these things, the more I feel that if we get into a real fight, regardless of technology, our ships are going to be screwed at a very basic level.
I am dumbfounded at that, and wouldn’t believe it even if I heard someone say it.
I hope to God that isn’t true.
I mean, there has to be some training in communication protocols and procedures, making sure they know how to set up and use sound powered gear (if they still do) and so on.
There has to be some kind of training and qualification process, even if they gundeck the darned thing.
You are totally right. A list of failures like that... it does not matter what cool techno-gadgets you give a watch stander if they are going to fail to that level. Nothing will help.
“The chief told me that he gets recruits straight out of boot camp and he puts them on watch duty.”
Mind numbing. It is like taking someone straight out of highschool and putting them in the co-pilot’s seat of a jumbo jet.
I wonder if it is possible to repair it.
Liberalism is like a one-way ratchet, it rarely gives up ground it has gained.
But seeing Trump in action gives me hope...he is doing it in other places...why not the military?
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