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To: Dimples
Problem is you can’t make any deduction from your anecdote. You can’t know what might have happened if your choice to get or not a flu shot were the opposite. By comparison, I’ve never had a flu shot in my 60 years. I’ve only gotten the flu two or three times over that period ... and not at all for the last 20 years or so. Guess I’ve had incredible luck .., ... or the odds of getting the flu are pretty small ;-)

No, it's called "herd immunity." You just spend most of your time in circles of people who are vaccinated. Since they don't get sick, you don't either. However, depending upon the virus, once the "herd" vaccination rate drops below a certain percentage, members of the herd will contract the virus at an alarming rate. This happened in NYC with red measles some years ago. Until it happened, the measles hadn't been seen for decades in school children, and most of the doctors didn't even know what they were looking at until it was at alarming proportions. By not getting vaccinated, you are weakening the health potential of your "herd."

9 posted on 12/03/2017 6:09:53 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: eastexsteve

Someone just mentioned “herd immunity”. Being In LE for over 20, both myself and my fellow thin blue liners have come into contact with quit a number of mutants ,with various ailments.... like the flu. I never had a shot,nor have I ever got the flu. My family has never had it, considering the failed social engineering upstanding citizens I had a to deal with, is that what is considered “ herd immunity”?


10 posted on 12/03/2017 6:50:43 AM PST by MGunny
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To: eastexsteve
...You just spend most of your time in circles of people who are vaccinated. Since they don't get sick, you don't either...

I'm often amazed at the assumptions people make in discussion. For example, you don't know me; you don't now the circles of people I spend time with; and you don't know what portion of those populations are vaccinated, yet you use that conjecture to make an argument. That's just poor analysis/logic.

Over my 60 years, I've worked in multiple large companies with large and diverse populations of people in generally open indoor environments. LOTS of people brought their illnesses to work. I've told countless employees to go or stay home when sick ... some do, some don't. Some have indeed had the flu. No, they were not all vaccinated. I know this because flu shots were a periodic topic of conversation ... most with whom I had that conversation did not get vaccinated.

I've been an active parent throughout my 3 children's school and activity lifetimes. I've been surrounded by children of all ages ... most of whom do not receive flu shots. Most years, a notice came home to be on the lookout for flu symptoms as outbreaks spread through the school.

I've cared for family members who suffered from the flu.

So, no, I am not a product of herd immunity, and no, my decision to get a shot of questionable effectiveness does not "weaken the herd."

As I said, I've been lucky ... and a bit conscientious about my interactions with obviously sick people ... maybe it's all luck ... doesn't matter.

My point to the previous poster was simply that the coincidence between that poster's receipt of a flu shot and the incidence of contracting the flu was indeed a coincidental anecdote and not evidence of causality.

What was your point?

17 posted on 12/05/2017 10:24:14 AM PST by Dimples
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