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To: BroJoeK
“None of the quotes (that Jeffersondem supplied) equating “domestic insurrections” with slave-revolts come from Jefferson himself, or others of that time. Instead they come from modern historians & bloggers.”

I thought it would be alright to cite modern historians because in your post 343 you cite an article written in 2003 as the single source of support for your claim that . . . well, I'm losing track of what you do claim.

Anyway, the article you cited was named “Insurrections, Domestic” and contained this sentence that ostensibly relates to Thomas Jefferson's “domestic insurrections:”

“No section of the country was spared the largely urban anti-abortion rioting that began in the mid-1980s and continued at the start of the twenty-first century.”

Why is it you can cite modern sources that do not relate in any sensible way to Jefferson's writings but I can not cite modern historians that do?

404 posted on 12/06/2017 4:45:36 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem; DoodleDawg; rockrr; x; HandyDandy
jeffersondem: "I thought it would be alright to cite modern historians because in your post 343 you cite an article written in 2003 as the single source of support for your claim that . . . well, I'm losing track of what you do claim."

That Jefferon's "domestic insurrections" referred to actual insurrections of loyalists against patriot governments, not to runaway slaves joining Lord Dunmore's British army.

And that 2003 article in my link was simply giving examples of what is considered a "domestic insurrection", including slave revolts.
However, there were no British "excited" slave revolts in 1776, nor did Lord Dunmore call for slaves to revolt.

jeffersondem: "Why is it you can cite modern sources that do not relate in any sensible way to Jefferson's writings but I can not cite modern historians that do?"

Cite whoever you wish, but the quote which could cinch your case would be from Jefferson himself legitimately saying, in effect:

But no such words have been found, from Jefferson or from anyone else at that time (i.e., Adams or Franklin).

So, in a nut-shell, here's the case against Jefferson's "domestic insurrections" = slave revolts:

  1. Jefferson & other Founders never said it did.

  2. There were no slave revolts at the time, whether "excited" by the Brits or otherwise.

  3. Lord Dunmore's Proclamation did not call for ("excite") slave revolts, but rather for runaways to join the British army.

  4. By contrast, at the time there were several "domestic insurrections" of loyalists against local patriot governments in Virginia & the Carolinas.

413 posted on 12/07/2017 8:54:19 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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