Who is the leader of the swamp/ deep state?

[Art in Idaho]

I am doing a lot on Harry Reid corruption. There are about 15 billionare donors to his Senate Majority PAC, led by Soros of course. . . There’s a lot of old Chicago Mafia still out there. That also leads to the Jewish mob lawyers who came from Chicago and hung with the Italians. A good book to read is Supermob. Sydney Korshak headed to Hollywood. I’m not anti-semetic, I just compile a database of the names involved and it is what it is.

Pardon this sidebar, but it just hit me reading through the thread that the individual income tax started in 1913. So how did the government even run in 1910? Currently we have many different taxes, the individual tax, corporate taxes, property tax, license taxes, so many different taxes on everything so it seems. I heard once there's 18 taxes on a loaf of bread. You read every quarter that there's record Federal tax revenues. Where does it all go?

Found this: "The origin of the income tax on individuals is generally cited as the passage of the 16th Amendment, passed by Congress on July 2, 1909, and ratified February 3, 1913; however, its history actually goes back even further. During the Civil War Congress passed the Revenue Act of 1861 which included a tax on personal incomes to help pay war expenses. The tax was repealed ten years later. However, in 1894 Congress enacted a flat rate Federal income tax, which was ruled unconstitutional the following year by the U.S. Supreme Court because it was a direct tax not apportioned according to the population of each state. The 16th amendment, ratified in 1913, removed this objection by allowing the Federal government to tax the income of individuals without regard to the population of each State."

So, I repeat, how did the Federal Government run in 1910? Can we get a list of Federal expenditures for 1910 and how they were paid?

The whole beltway corruption pay-to-play lobbyist mess needs a huge reset. I hope Trump can pull it off. You know damn well he's thinking, "The whole Federal government is a horrible business model. If it were private, it would be filing bankruptcy. What a waste." Well, let it go bankrupt. Whatever it takes to fix the mess.

I remember reading somewhere that when taxation starts to exceed 35%, revolutions start. A lot of Americans are above 35%.

[Daniel Ramsey]

Real question would be who if removed from their involvement would hurt it the most.

[pax_et_bonum]

No wonder I always thought Frank Paisley was annoying.

[Garth Tater]

"Rothschilds"

Yes, the international banking families symbolized by the Rothschilds but including many families with centuries of history in the world's dirtiest business.

The British peerage is full of these families as the great wealth stolen (over centuries) by the manipulation of money paid the price of entry for many of them.

Internet quote, take with a grain of salt:

"The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing.
                     - Attributed to William Paterson, founder of the Bank of England in 1694"

We have our own version of the British aristocracy. See:

America's 60 Families

If you are not a member of one of the world's wealthiest families then you are not a player in the game and your money, no matter how much of it you have, is at risk. Even the wealth of members of "the families" is at risk but as they have spent many generations intermarrying among themselves stealing from one is like stealing from them all and is not a smart thing to do.

Today the families run the world through control of:

     1.) International corporations

     2.) Global foundations

     3.) Central banks (their original source of wealth and still their biggest)

     4.) The International Monetary Fund (their planned successor to the US Dollar)

     5.) The Bank of International Settlements (the big kahuna that coordinates the families' central banks)

The US is largely controlled by these wealthy families through our corrupt political system where politicians and laws are bought and sold like the commodities that they are. President Trump is an anomaly that they didn't see coming until it was too late and now they are doing everything they can to discredit him, limit his achievements and make sure that a figure like him (an America-First, America-for-Americans) never makes it into a seat of power again.

They are not omnipotent (we still have our guns) or omniscient (they didn't see Trump coming) but they are working on a plan centuries in the making and they are very good at what they do.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of."
                 - Edward Bernays, "Propaganda"

[boxlunch]

Maybe the Saudi Arabian cabal which was recently taken down by the Prince MBS -they say they gave orders of magnitude more $$ than Soros to all the wicked causes & puppets. They definitely were pulling lots of strings anyway

[Garth Tater]

"The Clinton’s are visible tools and truly bit players on the stage."

They had the political power (now gone) and were quickly amassing the wealth but it takes generations of family connections to make it into the ruling families. Only their family connections keep them from being murdered for the immense wealth. And look at what the Clintons ended up with for family. Chelsea Clinton! LOL

And the Bushes, they made it three generations into the game and then they tapped out. G.W leaving only worthless daughters. Jeb "Tippy-Toes" Bush was the death knell for them. Thank God.

[SisterK]

Satan

[grania]

Romney’s got to be part of the US team

[I am Richard Brandon]

"OBAMA IS THEIR LEADER!"

Try as I might, I simply cannot believe that Odumbo has the necessary smarts. That was your starter for ten points.Try again.

[I am Richard Brandon]

"OBAMA IS THEIR LEADER!"

Try as I might, I simply cannot believe that Odumbo has the necessary smarts. That was your starter for ten points.Try again.

[boop]

Federal employees were allowed to unionize under an Executive Order from JFK.

Check my math, but that means that Trump could order that it is now *illegal*, tomorrow morning.

We'd never hear the end of the screaming, but that would be a gut shot to the democrats and the deep state.

I'm thinking this would be a most palatable move, if Trump has the belly for it.

And I believe he does.

[redinIllinois]

It sounds like that might be the only way to take out the deep state

[ssaftler]

It’s either the Bildeburgs or the Tri-Lateral Commission. We could go full-on tin-foil hat conspiracy and blame it on the Illuminati!

[Art in Idaho]

Federal employees were allowed to unionize under an Executive Order from JFK. Check my math, but that means that Trump could order that it is now *illegal*, tomorrow morning.

Wow, that would be fantastic. Then start renegotiating everything, salaries, benefits, etc.

The three counties around D.C. are the richest in America. American taxpayer monies going into the swamp. What are we getting for it? Granted, there are needed basic Federal services, the Military, the Mint and a few others, but all these different Departments have to be reviewed, staffing, salaries, benefits, pensions, travel, per diem. We all know they milk the system with travel, per diem and conference meetings.

I remember visiting D.C. in 2014 and driving by the Department of Education and Department of Agriculture buildings - Huge buildings, and I thought, "What do they do in there." I almost went in to the Dept. of Education building and asked to see Bill Ayers. Would have been fun to see their expression. Besides, he might have been there that day!

As you say, I hope Trump takes a hard look at the The National Federation of Federal Employees (NFFE). Maybe he can pull a Reaganesque Air Traffic Controllers move.

Go for it President Trump!

[Art in Idaho]

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." - Edward Bernays, "Propaganda"

The MSM's job plus all of TV - subtle comments that are lefty, subliminal scenes, certainly Hollywood, and a lot of the Internet with social media cut and paste lefty photos, sayings and comments. Our youth are the most susceptible. No doubt about it that it's well planned and organized. Thank God we have FR and other conservative sites to get the word out there.

[Art in Idaho]

America's 60 Families

The Power Elite

Elite Theory

[Art in Idaho]

Another interesting site: Iron law of oligarchy

"Michels stressed several factors that underlie the Iron Law of Oligarchy. Darcy K. Leach summarized them briefly as: "Bureaucracy happens. If bureaucracy happens, power rises. Power corrupts." Any large organization, Michels pointed out, has to create a bureaucracy in order to maintain its efficiency as it becomes larger — many decisions have to be made daily that cannot be made by large numbers of disorganized people. For the organization to function effectively, centralization has to occur and power will end up in the hands of a few. Those few — the oligarchy — will use all means necessary to preserve and further increase their power."

"This process is further compounded as delegation is necessary in any large organization, as thousands — sometimes hundreds of thousands — of members cannot make decisions via participatory democracy. This has to date been dictated by the lack of technological means for large numbers of people to meet and debate, and also by matters related to crowd psychology, as Michels argued that people feel a need to be led. Delegation, however, leads to specialization — to the development of knowledge bases, skills and resources among a leadership — which further alienates the leadership from the rank and file and entrenches the leadership in office."

Interesting read. Regardless, the elites need to hear from Trump and the Deplorables. We still have a voice and we're getting louder.

[Garth Tater]

"Bureaucracy happens. If bureaucracy happens, power rises. Power corrupts."

Luckily for everyone involved, bureaucracies cannot not grow. Inevitably they grow to the point where most of the resources they consume are used to maintain themselves and not to get their original tasks done - at which point a new group of power hungry bastards (or in a few cases, freedom loving bastards) comes along and overthrows the existing power structure and the cycle begins anew.

Thanks for the interesting sites. Much appreciated.

[Art in Idaho]

You’re welcome. The elites, even though they’re the power brokers, need to know we’re here and that the 2nd Amendment guarantees we’re the real power brokers if things get totally out of hand. Oh wait, aren’t we there yet already?

[Art in Idaho]

I like the quote and comment on your site:

"In our dreams, people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present education conventions of intellectual and character education, fade from their minds and unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive folk. We shall not try to make these people, or any of their children, into philosophers, or men of science. We have not to raise up from them authors, educators, poets or men of letters. We shall not search for great artists, painters, musicians nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen — of whom we have an ample supply. The task is simple. We will organize children and teach them in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way." – John D Rockefeller

"They think they own the world and everyone in it. It is our responsibility to inform them of their error."