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Third of people aged 18 to 24 could refuse to wear the poppy this year 'because it glorifies war'
UK Daily Mail ^ | November 1, 2017 | Steve Doughty

Posted on 11/02/2017 7:33:29 AM PDT by C19fan

A third of young people will refuse to wear a poppy this year or have doubts about doing so, researchers said yesterday. While four out of five people will join in remembering the war dead, allegiance to the tradition appears to be lessening among the young. More than one in five of 18 to 24-year-olds say they will not wear a poppy and a further one in ten are unsure if they will.

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To: rlmorel

“You may not be interested in Islam, but Islam is interested in you!
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
“How true..
FOR ALL:
One of the big problems of ‘presenting’ poppies at local businesses is you need a permit anymore.
Not just a ‘blanket permit’, you have to apply and get approved yearly or whenever you want to ‘man the station’(this may have changed somewhat but it was the way it was a few years back).

When this first started the people used to ‘gripe’ about the permits but I would point out to them that without the permit, anyone who could afford an empty soup can or coffee cup would be standing in the doorways of the businesses.

Of course would get the argument that ‘Ours is a GOOD cause’ but I would point out that the ‘Hare Krishna’ guy at the airport is/was convinced his was a good cause as well as the guy in the median strip at the red light.

As to the permits, it is sort of like the Legions/VFWs with bingo etc...MUST HAVE MEMBERS in all phases, can’t ‘farm’ anything out. AND you can’t pay anyone.

So, since these are all VOLUNTEERs, the ‘work force’ slims down yearly and it gets harder to get members to step forward.

One of my ‘favorite’ sayings is

“Don’t whizzz off the volunteer help, you may end up doing it yourself”

People ‘hate it’ when one throws a logical answer back at them...
Now I don’t want a mosque next door to me either BUT I (not so) ‘casually’ point out that 100 years ago the Catholics/Jews/now WASP etc where being stimied when they wanted to build THEIR Houses of Worship and - I am sure - with the tired old argument...well Rome/Tel Aviv/ etc will be running OUR country from theirs.

Now I do know that part of the ‘objection’ to JFK was that ROME would be running everything from Rome.

Oh, when people ‘gripe’ about all the Blacks voting for BO because he is Black, is that the same as MOST Catholics voting for JFK just because he is Irish/Catholic?

‘I refer to myself as a ‘Devils Advocate’, while most think of me as a ‘smart ass’ and I do admit to being quite anal’..... <: <: <:


21 posted on 11/02/2017 8:32:20 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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To: xrmusn

Yes...I wanted to see if I could join VFW, but I was peacetime Navy, so they still have that requirement last I checked.

That is awful...you have to get a bloody permit. God, how I hate bureaucracy.


22 posted on 11/02/2017 8:34:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: hanamizu

The last one I bought was from the DAV Forget Me Not blue flower a couple of years ago.


23 posted on 11/02/2017 8:35:52 AM PDT by Southern_Republican
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To: C19fan

Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. The big war is coming. Those young people who sneer at such things will soon be in uniform and many come home in body bags. WW III will be worse than WW I & II.


24 posted on 11/02/2017 8:37:13 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: manc

If you destroy history, and you destroy tradition, all the is left is The Party.

To that, I would add “If you destroy sexual differences, individualism, personal recreation, personal transportation...”


25 posted on 11/02/2017 8:37:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: rlmorel

Yes...I wanted to see if I could join VFW, but I was peacetime Navy, so they still have that requirement last I checked.
= = = = = = = = = = =
You may have been somewhere, sometime to be eligible for VFW.
For the longest time the Taiwan Straits and Cuban Missile Crisis were VFW but not Legion Eligible.
Legion ‘changed’ when they dropped their requirement to 1961 but still don’t think the 1958 Taiwan is AL eligible.

Those two were part of the Armed Forces Expedition Medal and if you held that, you would be eligible for VFW PRIOR 1964 (Gulf of Tonkin) then any AFEM from late 50s to Gulf of Tonkin could be converted to VSM if you had a Vietnam ‘voucher’.


26 posted on 11/02/2017 8:45:54 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

You are entirely correct, and I would add one caveat: this time, the home front in America will not be spared. Between cyber attacks, terrorist strikes and even nuclear attacks, the “public” will get a taste of what their European counterparts experienced from 1939-45—but the next war will be far more devastating for civilians.


27 posted on 11/02/2017 8:49:20 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Jamestown1630

The VFW is in front of my local Walmart with poppies every year. Frankly though you see a lot more of them in Canada.


28 posted on 11/02/2017 8:55:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Glad to know they’re still out there.


29 posted on 11/02/2017 8:56:09 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: C19fan

“Product of the what education has become.”
Most likely a product of massive third-world immigration and child birth coupled with zero reproduction from the natives. It wasn’t their granddads who were killed in the war, so who cares about a stupid poppy.


30 posted on 11/02/2017 9:13:10 AM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...".)
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To: Jamestown1630

Just don’t disrespect a poppy or poppy seller where I can see it or we’ll both be getting a different ride than that in which we came, ambulance and police car.


31 posted on 11/02/2017 10:48:39 AM PDT by MCRD
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To: xrmusn

LOL, I was a mid-seventies guy, joining a few months after the fall of Saigon, and the only enemy I had to fight was Jimmy Carter!


32 posted on 11/02/2017 10:50:46 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: C19fan

When Queen Elizabeth’s mother was married at Westminster Abbey in 1921, she placed her bouquet on the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior, which is at the entrance. It is bordered with poppies.

She did this in remembrance of her brother who was killed in WWI and is still MIA.

All royal brides since have done the same.

How fast the Snowflakes forget ...


33 posted on 11/02/2017 11:32:36 AM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ..6)
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To: Jamestown1630

A few years ago, one of my kids crochet’ed several dozen for the veterans, and passed them out at the Veteran’s Day program. It was pretty cool.

/I am a Navy veteran


34 posted on 11/02/2017 12:07:44 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: ro_dreaming

When I couldn’t find them anymore, I thought I’d buy a pin; but those just aren’t as traditional, or seem to say the same thing, as the handmade paper or silk ones.

I remember my Grandmother coming home with one every year, when she worked at Veterans Admin.


35 posted on 11/02/2017 12:29:26 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: C19fan; moose07
Yet a scant 3 years ago for the "Blood Swept Lands and Seas of Red" evolving art installation at the Tower of London in London, England, 888,246 ceramic poppies were planted in the moat by volunteers with the last poppy being planted on the 11th November 2014. Each poppy represents a British or Colonial fatality in the First World War".

The installation took some time accompanied, I am, sure by quite a bit of media coverage.

"Lest we forget"....How soon they forget....

36 posted on 11/02/2017 12:33:43 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

That is impressive.


37 posted on 11/02/2017 1:17:16 PM PDT by Rebelbase (There are only two genders. The rest are mental disorders.)
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To: dfwgator

That season was the best of the bunch and the ending hit you like a sledgehammer.


38 posted on 11/02/2017 2:18:29 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: from occupied ga

Thanks for posting this. We had to memorize this poem in 3rd grade. We also plant poppies at our house as a remembrance. We haven’t lost anyone but friends and neighbors have.


39 posted on 11/02/2017 6:04:14 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem ...)
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To: Covenantor

Incredible, isn’t it.
The Brain washing is almost complete.


40 posted on 11/03/2017 2:37:48 AM PDT by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) Forward to the glorious world of next Tuesday !)
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