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Amazon HQ2: Why Some Cities May Not Want to Land Its New Headquarters
The Street ^ | 21 Oct 2017 | Annie Palmer

Posted on 10/21/2017 8:24:15 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Gentrification, higher tax rates and a 'prosperity bomb' are just some of the risks to Amazon setting up shop in your neighborhood.... To start, cities have been promising big tax breaks to Amazon that could come at the expense of local taxpayers in the near term. New Jersey offered $7 billion in potential tax credits, while California proposed $300 million in incentives over several years and Philadelphia said it may contribute as much as $2 billion in tax breaks over 10 years. In exchange for the limelight, residents might face higher tax rates to foot the bill of shiny subsidies.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: amazon
Just sewer and water for a project like this is massive.

Minimum one toilet for 50 people, one drinking fountain/100...(Probably twice that.)

Huge pipes, deep excavations for miles, new water supplies, new waste treatment facilities...

Just the tip of the iceberg of public obligations. Police,fire,roads, public trans...

And the taxpayer picks up the tab.

1 posted on 10/21/2017 8:24:15 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Too much too fast.


2 posted on 10/21/2017 8:25:59 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That’s why we make large business build in the town next to us.


3 posted on 10/21/2017 8:27:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Amazon is showing some rare Twitter love to these four states in their new headquarters bid

https://www.recode.net/2017/10/19/16504322/amazon-new-second-headquarters-hq2-texas-colorado-dc-massachusetts

Since Amazon launched the contest September 7, the Twitter handle has tweeted about or retweeted four locations in relation to its headquarters search: Dallas, Washington D.C., Colorado and, today, Massachusetts.

5 things you need to know about D-FW's bid for Amazon's HQ2

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/technology/2017/10/04/5-things-need-know-d-fws-bid-amazons-hq2

4 posted on 10/21/2017 8:32:32 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I can’t imagine any state not wanting those jobs. I do think it financially unwise for them to go to a liberal dem state. They might get tax considerations, but the amazon around here pays worker bees about 13van hour.

It won’t be a week from completion that riots will be happening over unlivable wages given given cost of living for that area.

They need a low cost of living, high basic worker population area. I’d also pick one central to major US population for shipping costs. That wouls be Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, western Pa or western Va.

Is there an over under in Vegas? I’d go with zero tax Tennessee.


5 posted on 10/21/2017 8:33:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. L)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Your comments below would be just the tip of the taxpayer iceberg.

Getting the Amazon new headquarters would be like building a dozen NFL stadiums, a dozen MBL fields and a dozen NBA courts with ongoing expenses 24/7.


6 posted on 10/21/2017 8:54:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Trump is kicking their a$$es, they, ______________, want to quit. (Fill in the blank!))
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Yeah, gentrification. That sounds awful.

gen·tri·fi·ca·tion
noun: gentrification; plural noun: gentrifications

the process of renovating and improving a house or district so that it conforms to middle-class taste.

•the process of making a person or activity more refined or polite.
“soccer has undergone gentrification”


7 posted on 10/21/2017 8:54:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: Elderberry

“Dallas, Washington D.C., Colorado and, today, Massachusetts.”

A former neighbor is a key exec with a mega tech corp.

He did a few years in NYC, did not care for it.
Few more years in silicon valley; HATED IT!

Now in Colorado and loves it!
Ten acres near Boulder mows his own large lawn and totally loves it.

Forty miles from Denver and beyond his yard is wilderness (for now).

The big old cities are NOT attractive.


8 posted on 10/21/2017 8:56:06 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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To: Grampa Dave

” like building a dozen NFL stadiums, a dozen MBL fields and a dozen NBA courts”

And all the rainwater runoff???


9 posted on 10/21/2017 8:58:56 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I wonder if winning Amazon HQ is going to be like winning the Olympics bid.


10 posted on 10/21/2017 8:59:15 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I still think this HQ2 stuff is a load of cr@p.

I see 2 other possibilities:

1) This is an attempt to extort concessions out of Seattle and WA.

2) This HQ2 is not really gonna be anything of the kind, but by calling it that Amazon gets more attention and concessions than they would if they called it a distribution center, administration center or something alng the lines.


11 posted on 10/21/2017 9:01:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: xzins

Safe bet, it will not be Illinois.

Broken Illinois, Exhibit A: First Foxconn, now Toyota-Mazda ...

The other negative factor, he reported, is that Illinois is not a right-to-work state.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-exhibita-20171019-story.html


12 posted on 10/21/2017 9:06:09 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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To: Elderberry

Missouri is trying also, St. Louis and KC. I would think Amazon would want to locate in the Midwest.


13 posted on 10/21/2017 9:32:08 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: DesertRhino

Yeah, but ya gotta use Frederica Wilson’s dictionary... /”empty barrel”


14 posted on 10/21/2017 10:15:08 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: DUMBGRUNT

$2 billion in tax breaks? Folks there you have it. What Bezos is doing is shopping around to see which city is stupid and gullible enough to give him all he wants and more on a SilverPlatter.

And after he does select a new pigeon of a city, he’s going to dump Seattle and leave them high and dry. It’s a double lose/lose for two cities.


15 posted on 10/21/2017 10:32:22 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Bingo. You got it. I used to buy and sell cars at the local auto auction. We had a saying. The sucker with his hand in the air the longest, got stuck with the car.


16 posted on 10/21/2017 10:34:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: DUMBGRUNT

No, Mr Bezos, you didn’t build that. The local taxpayers did.


17 posted on 10/21/2017 10:37:20 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: xzins
I can’t imagine any state not wanting those jobs.

Because it will bring ignorant liberals. Please go to a blue state.

18 posted on 10/21/2017 10:43:56 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: DesertRhino
"Yeah, gentrification. That sounds awful."

That isn't really an accurate description of what's been happening in Seattle as a result of amazon. We are seeing houses been torn down and replaced by large apartments, soaring housing costs, and horrendous traffic jams. Homelessness is on the rise, has exploded. I live in the suburbs, and it's spreading here. On an almost weekly basis, it gets visibly worse.

For people already here before the boom, it has been advantageous to our situation because our homes have appreciated in value by a hundred percent - or more - in ten years. But for any young person not in a household with two high incomes, it is becoming a struggle just to make ends meet.

The much-ballyhooed $15 minimum wage might is just a sop to the masses; it will do nothing to solve the problem.
19 posted on 10/21/2017 11:29:25 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If youre into a sudden influx of thousands demanding immature socialists in your town, invite Amazon in.


20 posted on 10/21/2017 3:18:29 PM PDT by lurk
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