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I was a newly elected member of the school board and I was surprised this was a practice ( or non - practice, if you will ).

I voiced my concern then but forget what the reply was and I went on about my business attempting to drain the swamp. (modern term stolen for a years' old practice).

At last night's school board meeting, I again raised the concern and the solicitor looked at me like he was SO frustrated with my stupid questions and told me in a very unpleasant voice that "This has been litigated for years and the Supreme Court and the ACLU and the blah, blah blah ...... "

And he pretty effectively shut off any discussion.

So I went home and researched the matter and found;

The Pledge of Allegiance was challenged and adjudicated way back in the nineteen forties and intermittently since then.

THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM IS INDEED A SOCIALIST INDOCTRINATION FACILITY.


I'm 69 years old and I have NEVER in my life known that the pledge had been questioned and taken to court.

Perhaps now we see the effects of that socialist training emerging through the grown up students OF that school system ..... the NFL players.

It might not be their fault they are disrespectful to the one public display of national affection allowed, but it is their responsibility (as is ours), to learn of the reason we show respect for our nation.

1 posted on 10/20/2017 2:25:50 AM PDT by knarf
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Perhaps the violation was made on we patriots for having been indoctrinated into thinking and believing saying The Pledge of Allegiance to The Flag and signing the National Anthem was some sort of requirement in the first place.

I can remember way back to the first grade (Miss Morgan), and saying the Pledge, singing "My Country 'Tis Of Thee and Miss Morgan reading from a black covered bible at the beginning of every day.

I was born in 1948 so this would have been in 1953 or there-abouts.

I remember the Pledge all through my school years until 1965 when I enlisted in the Army.

I have never in my life ( even during my post military, quasi radically political daze (no typo) of the late sixties and beyond), heard a whisper about the pledge having been tried and adjudicated before I was even born.

I offer this thread as a way to discuss this situation and perhaps bring us all to a better understanding of our nation.

I am in no way some anarchist type, but I woke up this morning feeling very depressed which is uncharacteristic of me, and I realized that solicitor at last night's school board meeting had given me a punch that left a bruise.

2 posted on 10/20/2017 2:36:30 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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Tell us more stories about your school board in other threads.

We need to hear more about what is happening in the belly of the leftist beast.


4 posted on 10/20/2017 3:48:17 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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I remember starting off every school day by reciting, “I pledge of legions to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for witches stands, one nation, under God, invisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

Then, in Girl Scouts, we had a lesson on the Pledge of Allegiance, which not only taught the correct words, but discussed the meaning. I remember being confused, because the pledge was not about legions in an invisible nation at all.

The real problem is not whether or not the school leads the pledge, but that children are not taught the history. Instead, they are taught some horror story in place of history, with the implication often reinforced that the founding of this country was so horrific and evil that the country should be eradicated and the ground salted where it used to exist.

If the left were consistent, they would advocate for the destruction of every country, because there is no country on earth that has a perfect past. But they are not consistent—and, in fact, seem to embrace countries which routinely practice brutality far exceeding anything we have ever done as a country.


6 posted on 10/20/2017 4:00:16 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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8 posted on 10/20/2017 4:13:09 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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Government schooling is **compulsory** for all children whose parents can not ransom them through expensive home or private schooling.

State **compulsion** means threat of armed police and court action if the citizen is sufficiently resistant.

Government schooling is a **compulsory** attendance and **compulsory** funded socialist-entitlement. Children in these indoctrination centers are at risk of learning to be comfortable with socialism. Gee! If the voting mob can give them tuition-free schooling, why not use that same voting mob to get **lots** of “free” stuff?

Government schooling also trains the children to be comfortable with state **compulsion**. If and when true tyranny comes to our nation, the fascists will NOT use cattle cars. They will use big yellow school buses and the steeple will compliantly board them just as their government teachers trained them to do.

Remember: It only took one to three generations of socialist and **compulsory** schooling to give the nation two Roosevelts and Wilson!

By the way, homeschooling is expensive because it most often means that one parent is not working outside the home.

13 posted on 10/20/2017 5:31:44 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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Many immigrants know how precious it is to live in America because they can compare this to where they were born. Too many Americans are spoiled, ungrateful and have never given a thought to how fortunate they are to live in America and live at a good standard of living. These are the people who do not stand for The National Anthem and The Pledge of Allegiance.

Too many blacks are sullen and ignorant like this but people of all races can be guilty of lack of respect.

When I was little everyone stood and showed respect ....Even if they did not want to because there was group pressure.

You know how much Roger Goodell makes? 26 million per year. He is the son of liberal Senator Goodell from New York.


15 posted on 10/20/2017 5:52:39 AM PDT by dennisw (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it is enemy action.)
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What meaning do mandatory pledges have?


20 posted on 10/20/2017 9:56:59 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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