CIA urges POTUS Trump to delay release of.....documents on assassination of John F. KennedyThank

The Doran ^ | October 17, 2017, | Alex Christoforou

[SteveH]

tell the co-worker state secrets and tell him not to tell anyone else under penalty of execution for treason... maybe without a trial. then execute some friends of his that did talk. then see if your friend talks.

make it a fair comparison.

[advance_copy]

I concur about Oswald. He did the shooting, no doubt. The question remains though if he was in contact with the KGB or the Castro regime. I suspect he might have been.

And that raises the question about Jack Ruby, whether he shot Oswald to cover up a connection to Castro or USSR. For, if he was and that was learnt by the US public at the time, it would have meant World War III.

[no-to-illegals]

a professor once told a physics class I attended ... “math doesn’t lie”

[SunkenCiv]

The “whole Cuban thing” refers to a CIA program that sent payments to the Mob to kill Castro. When this was disclosed to the Kennedy brothers (it was practically a dual presidency) JFK ordered it closed down. But it wasn’t closed down. When the Mob (and spare me, all, it was obviously a Mob hit) killed JFK, the CIA was blackmailed into silence thanks to their own stupidity.

The Mob never made any authentic attempt to off Castro. The closest thing was having a future Watergate burglar, Frank Sturgis (nee Frank Angelo Fiorini), cheek-by-jowl with Castro, holding a weapon, and just never pulling the trigger. Sturgis jumped ship, into the anti-Castro exile movement, but was neither Cuban, nor a CIA employee, despite his background in military intelligence. He was a mobster, but also operated as a snitch.

After the Mob lost Havana, they also lost a big chunk of the drug trafficking that the Castro brothers now control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Frank_Sturgis_in_Cuba_1959.jpg

[Fresh Wind]

What’s the problem? They’ve had over half a century to manufacture whatever documentary evidence they need. And now they want 25 more years?

[Gene Eric]

Tell me you’re not suggesting Project Beethoven was in play.

[wbarmy]

I actually lived in Dallas when the assassination occurred, sitting on my daddy’s shoulders as the motorcade passed by.

They turned the corner into downtown Dallas, we went into the house, and all heck broke loose.

Every single neighbor and adult I knew said that LBJ did it because of the lucrative contracts that Vietnam was starting to produce for Bell Helicopters and American Air.

Plus, Lady Bird was not the angel she was represented as, and LBJ was the most corrupt politician since anybody. He was nasty.

[wbarmy]

I actually lived in Dallas when the assassination occurred, sitting on my daddy’s shoulders as the motorcade passed by.

They turned the corner into downtown Dallas, we went into the house, and all heck broke loose.

Every single neighbor and adult I knew said that LBJ did it because of the lucrative contracts that Vietnam was starting to produce for Bell Helicopters and American Air.

Plus, Lady Bird was not the angel she was represented as, and LBJ was the most corrupt politician since anybody. He was nasty.

[9YearLurker]

Yes, because there are so many innocent people would be hurt with only 55 years passed...

[MagnoliaB]

Who are the innocent people that will be hurt in your opinion?

[Lopeover]

BS

[StAnDeliver]

"“Larry J. Sabato” The professor couldn’t accurately predict the outcome of a Globetrotters-Generals game."

He is sooo bad, he'd be better off taking his chances on the floor against the Globetrotters...

[StAnDeliver]

"writes the CIA, under the bylines of alleged CIA MSM disinformation assets Philip Shenon and Larry J. Sabato.

There, fixed it. :-)"

I lol'd, literally.

[9YearLurker]

Exactly.

[StAnDeliver]

Who is still around who could possibly not want this schizz released?? Who has spook access to try and stop them?

And then, of course. The Kennedys themselves.

[odawg]

I once saw an “expert” explain, in connection with that, that it is only from watching TV dramas that we think that when someone is shot that the body follows the direction of the bullets. He claimed that in every instance the body lurches against the direction of the bullet. I kid you not.

[politicianslie]

a professor once told a physics class I attended ... “math doesn’t lie”

So WHAT IS THE MATH in the JFK assassination?

It turns out there are TWO INDEPENDENT WAYS to determine the time between shots. That is a fact and it is NOT debatable. The confusion starts with the fact that almost ALL JFK "experts", hobbyists, casual observers..... have been convinced that one of the ways to determine the time between shots is NOT valid.

METHOD 1:

The ZAPRUDER FILM was filmed at a speed of 18.3 frames per second (the FBI filmed a clock and then determined the number of frames per second = 18.3).

In the film, there are TWO times that most agree we can see reactions to shots. Immediately after the limo emerges from behind the Stemmon's sign, we see Tex. Gov. John Connally begin a reaction to a shot (frame 224). The most obvious time we can see a reaction to a shot is Zapruder frame 313.

TIME BETWEEN Z313 and Z224 = (313 - 224)/18.3 = 4.8 seconds

SUMMARY FOR THE ZAPRUDER FILM: There is 4.8 seconds between a reaction to a shot by Gov. Connally and the shot to Kennedy's head at Zapruder frame 313.

METHOD 2:

As mentioned earlier, ALMOST EVERYONE believes Method 2 is NOT valid. IT has been viciously attacked as invalid by almost every "academic" that could hold a slide rule in 1963 (upgraded to calculator in the 1970's and today, a computer). It turns out TWO TEAMS of AUDIO EXPERTS were hired by the HSCA to determine IF the sounds of shots were recorded on the only audio recording that MIGHT have captured the sounds of shots. They determined the following shot spacings:

It should be immediately obvious to even the most brain washed American that the time between shots #3 and #4 is 4.8 seconds just like the Zapruder film shows is the time between frames 224 and 313! That alone strongly suggests that the sounds of the shots were recorded by a police microphone on a moving motorcycle.

IF 4.8 seconds is common to BOTH the Zapruder film AND the audio evidence analysis, then WHY HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THIS FACT BEFORE?

It turns out that the HSCA audio experts published that there were FOUR SHOT patterns found on the audio tape but this figure shows FIVE! WHY THE DIFFERENCE? I assure you that it is way beyond the scope of this posting on FREEREPUBLIC to explain WHY the HSCA published four shots when the data actually showed FIVE shots.

To show that there is enough information out in the public domain to solve the JFK assassination, I put together this video. The video shows one more interval and puts together 4.8 seconds, then BANG-BANG, two shots fired almost on top of each other (the dozens of witnesses who said the last TWO shots were BANG-BANG did NOT hear echoes, those were two separate shots and the audio analysis proves the witnesses were right).

Showing the match between the Zapruder film and the Audio Evidence that has been hidden by the Deep State for over five decades

When you look at the probabilities that there could have been echo patterns on the audio tape made from the dictabelt police recording that showed 4.8 seconds then BANG-BANG exactly like the Zapruder film shows, then you know with certainty that the sounds of the shots were recorded on the dictabelt! Knowing that you know that a conspiracy killed President Kennedy. Soon after that revelation, you can easily see that the US government possesses forged evidence.

How could all of this happen? The only answer that fits is that the conspiracy was run from high in the US gubermint. And even today, the DEEP STATE will tell any lie, forge or destroy any document to hide the truth. You can know the truth if you want to but first, you must prove that you stayed awake when you took high school level algebra. The odds of the echo patterns on the tape recording of the police recording matching the acoustics from actual test shots AND the time between shots matching the Zapruder film show the odds are well over a million to one that the sounds of the shots were recorded. Unless you have seen what I have written about, you likely have never before seen the AND in this statement!

It's so easy to fool Americans, you only have to fool the presstitutes. The presstitutes have proven repeatedly that they may have taken high school level math but if they stayed awake, they did NOT understand any of it.

[Chauncey Gardiner]

LBJ and Bush 41 did it

[trebb]

I’ve always thought he arranged it with his mob buddies.

[Vigilanteman]

Back during the 50th anniversary (2013), there was a documentary series that explored every theory. Most of them were too cockeyed and complicated, involving too many people who would've has someone eventually talk.

The LBJ theory was simple and straightforward, explaining motive, opportunity and circumstances. What convinced me was his former mistress who told the interviewer that LBJ always treated her with kindness except one time when she asked him about the theory and he warned her to never, ever, mention it again. Not even in jest. She knew "the look" and he was dead serious.