Can't seem to find all dozens of sites this photo was placed on to get the best pixilation but maybe someone can find a better one. Question, why are her elbows cut off?
Posted on 10/10/2017 9:09:22 PM PDT by SteveH
Do we have any legal beagle input on all of this yet?
Hotel negligence. Concert promoter negligence. Concert security negligence. LV LE negligence.
Past examples of coverups of mass murder events for insurance purposes.
Well, the REAL shooters are AWESOME hackers, then, because they modified computer records in the Hotel and at the ATF, and EXCELLENT burglers, because they broke into every gun store and doctored the 4413 forms!
Can't seem to find all dozens of sites this photo was placed on to get the best pixilation but maybe someone can find a better one. Question, why are her elbows cut off?
who is the maintenance guy?
how did one victim get shot 3x from 1100’ and a 32 story drop in night conditions?
This whole thing is so confusing and so unclear. The public does need to see more evidence. The new timeline makes little sense. Clearly Paddock was planning something other than what went down. His plans were much bigger.
the most obvious possible reason is that there was a third person present and was whose image captured in the photo, and the photo was cropped to show only two people.
THE.
LARGE.
VEGAS.
CASINOS.
HAVE.
CAMERAS.
EVERYWHERE.
Why is there no video of SCP being shown to the public if the guy was staying there for several days?
Gun running makes a ton of sense re selling in the hotel and bringing up the guns. And laundering profits through gambling. But why were they all different weapons he purchased at retail? That makes no sense. He didn’t have two of anything. He bought them from retail venues.
or if you are referring to the vertical, then maybe the other person was carrying a jacket in his or her lap.
For me the question is what was he planning on doing? Clearly the guard spooked him. Was the plan all along to shoot up the concert? Or did he have something else in mind?
“If SCP is a guy that washes money, that puts him in the underworld. So he is owned three ways. First, he’s controlled by whom he acts for in order to launder their millions. Secondly, the casinos record this illegal activity and could blow the whistle at any time. Third, the IRS & federal law enforcement can prosecute him for these illegal transfers of cash. They indict people for money laundering all the time.
“Therefore, he has great exposure and could be cornered, bribed, or coerced to participate in some other unrelated nefarious plot or activity. He came, he played and he ultimately lost. It stands to reason that Steve was used as a sucker.”
Thanks for that insight! This is the kind of commentary I was hoping to get.
No, horizontal along both elbows.
I just reviewed the 60 Minutes episode. At no point did the officers mention the security guard or maintenance man. Very odd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP8SyD65YNM
Maintenance man...
What was Plan 1? Were the windows broken before the guard was shot or after? If he was shot, then the shooter panicked, then broke the windows and then let loose hell, well, it could be that night wasn’t even on his radar. It’s obvious he wasn’t ready if he was still setting up cameras. But then how did he expect to get away with the blocked stairwell? Nothing in this story makes sense.
My quandary today is why didn’t the cops on 60 Minutes mention the guard or the maintenance man? If they weren’t there, then that’s another story version that goes down the drain.
Yup, I think his shooting at the crowd was an on the spot decision once the guard spooked him. Not the original plan. If the new timeline (or anything else) can be believed he started shooting 6 minutes after wounding the guard. Had that been the plan along I don’t think it would have taken him six minutes to put “the plan” into action.
Another thing that brothers me is the suicide? Still lots of people at the concert grounds to shoot at. He’s still got plenty of ammunition and barricaded doors. Why not go down shooting? Maybe he feared be taken alive? Feared he’d talk and give up his handlers?
Thanks. Every story changes. First it’s just Campos up there. Then, Campos has time to call and get maintenance up there and they’re shot at as they’re talking at the stairwell door. Now, the maintenance guy is just coming up there when the shots start so they aren’t by the stairwell discussing the problem.
Also, during all this latest version, the maintenance guy goes down to get a master key from his supervisor to turn off the elevator. DUMB idea and in violation of all fire codes and with the stairwell blocked how the heck was LE supposed to get up there? Then the supervisor is up there to hand the master key to the cops.
What hit the maintenance man in the back? Was Hellary there, too, dodging bullets?
Yeah, yeah, no two witnesses see the same thing but this changes every hour on the hour.
there is clearly a hole in the narrative concerning the security guard, and it is being kept bottled up.
the most charitable scenario i can come up with at this moment is that the guy is as some here allege an illegal migrant, working without proper papers.
this would imho put the hotel in a bad light if it were publicized and also create a breach in the legal dyke that the hotel is presumably building to defend itself against potential claims from 500+ victims.
a less charitable scenario is that the security guard is in on it. i am not certain about that one way or another but the fact that he has been touted as a hero in the media for several days seems to go against this scenario (for the moment).
an even less charitable scenario is that the hotel is in on it, since the hotel seems to be owned by ME interests sympathetic to CAIR and the Obama administration (as the oct. 4 infowars broadcast mentions). The problem with that scenario is that the hotel was messing in their own back yard so to speak. It is still possible but it would imply that the stakes are corporate asset sized.
Minor plot details. They can’t follow it exactly or Travis could get them for copyright violation. [ grin ]
Simple physics and trajectory analysis shows how unlikely it is that whomever was shooting from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay using a bump-fire stock equipped rifle in either .223 or .308 managed to hit one person three times with consecutive bullets. Would it be impossible? No, but the odds are approaching zero.
Furthermore, independent audio forensic analysis shows without a doubt the presence of at least one other shooter from around 250 yards from the person shooting one of the videos.
LE is starting from a conclusion (Paddock was the only shooter) and moving backwards looking for the evidence to fit that conclusion. A real investigation would have involved a complete shutdown of everything within about a 350 to 400 yard radius of the center of the concert venue the night of the event whereupon thorough searches would have been conducted for anything that indicated another shooter in another location - or anything out of the ordinary...
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