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Soros Fund Management LLC's bought puts on MGM per 13F filing
SEC ^ | 08/14/17 | SEC

Posted on 10/10/2017 2:48:37 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1029160/000114036117031995/xslForm13F_X01/form13fInfoTable.xml

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: lasvegas; soros; sorosfund; sorosmgm
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To: mazda77

I trade opitions. Options are contracts. They are not stocks. Options are leverage. 1 option contract controls 100 stocks.

Most people sell, also called write, options. When you sell an option you immediately recieve a credit. This is called the “premium”.

Let’s say you own a piece of land and someone wants to purchase it. They would put a down payment to hold the property for a certian time period. This is called the contract. The contract will settled on the day of expiration. The seller and buyer may agree to call off the contract any time prior to expiration. The buyer may decide to walk away. If the buyer walks away the seller keeps the premium.

If you buy an option, you must pay tbe premium to the seller. Now you are betting the the price of the stock goes up “call” or down “put” enough to cover the premium and the price of purchase or “strike” price. Most people buy options if they plan on owning the stock.

If a stock is trading at $100 a share you can buy a put option (contract) controlling 100 shares at $80. You must pay the seller a premium for 10% control of the stock for a predetermined timeframe.

If the stock remains above $80 you can end the contract, but lose a portion of your premium or you can let the option expire worthless and lose all of your premium or you may honor the conyract and purchase 100 shares of stock for $8000, plus fees.

Since you now own 100 shares, you can sell 1 option against them. Let’s say you list them for $100 a share. The buyer pays you a premium or down payment. If the stock hits $100 or above by expiration you would keep the premium plus $20 per share or $2000. If the buyer walks away or if the stock doesn’t reach $100 on expiration you keep the premium and the stock. You can do this over and over, which is called a rolling strategy.

90% of options are not exercised. They are either closed prior to expiration or expire worthless. The purpose of selling options is to keep the premium.

I hope this helps.


21 posted on 10/10/2017 6:51:04 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Hasn’t Georgie done enough damage to what three or four country’s monetary systems?


22 posted on 10/10/2017 7:30:12 AM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: PJammers

Very much so. Thanks to all who responded.


23 posted on 10/10/2017 7:37:11 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: ptsal

> “Is there a cone of silence at this location or is it monitored 24x7 in Langley, VA?”

Is CIA Langley still referred to as Langley? I’ve heard the lingo has hanged.

As for a cone of silence, I suspect that in the past, yes, there was a cone of silence as Soros and Obama-Hillary were joined at the hip. I guess then that this capability was extended to his operations.

As for the present, all may be changed or maybe not. Surely, Soros people had a backup plan and if not, they had time to scramble between Nov 8 and the present.


24 posted on 10/10/2017 9:39:34 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: pgyanke

The 13 F linked shows all the positions of that Fund. There weren’t many option positiins and there were only two put positions for over 1,000,000 shares in stock. Valeant Pharmaceuticals was the other one.


25 posted on 10/10/2017 12:08:31 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: PJammers

This point you make here about 1 option controlling 100 shares of stock, I have been wondering if someone might put 1,350,000 shares on the 13 F form, instead of 1,350,000 contracts, which would be for 135,000,000 shares.

If caught in a discrepancy there could they then say they made a mistake putting down the number of contracts instead of shares.

Haven’t checked the listed outstanding interest in puts on the stock.

It would help if we knew the strike price and expiration date on these options.

Then we could check the outstanding puts and see what percentage of them were held by this Soros Fund.

Also could Soros have other entities and investment vehicles that bought puts in MGM?


26 posted on 10/10/2017 12:20:48 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

I doubt its a misprint. The guy is a multi-billionaire. He can make millions on very small price moves.

Its hard to say what strategy he is using. The form doesn’t indicate if he was selling or buying, the type of put/cal, expiration date or strike price.

He also executed an order for Ceasars. From what I can see, the shares he trades are fairly popular for option trading.

I’m betting there was a technical indicator these trades were based on.


27 posted on 10/10/2017 3:56:54 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Steve Pieceznik wrote an article with more information on put volume in MGM.

http://stevepieczenik.com/financial-foolery-at-mgm/


28 posted on 10/12/2017 1:28:58 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: RacerX1128

Per Scott Binsack between 09/05/17 and 9/12/17 the CEO and Board of Directors of MGM sold $ 200 million of MGM stock.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zFVpbCfclxQ


29 posted on 10/13/2017 1:28:34 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: RacerX1128

Per Binsack this includes James Murren, Chairman and CEO of MGM selling 85 percent of his MGM shares in September of 2017

Not long after they got the company buying back shares through a share repurchase program, believe started 9/05, all of these insiders sold.

Anyone with MGM stock want to call a securities attorney?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zFVpbCfclxQ


30 posted on 10/13/2017 1:34:24 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: dontreadthis

He is not a majority owner. I believe he owns 47.5%. Bill Gates owns an equal percentage, with the former owner holding the balance.


31 posted on 10/13/2017 2:08:03 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

I do not know all the implications but I do know this scenario Stinks to high heaven.


32 posted on 10/16/2017 8:06:44 PM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA: James Rocknowski)
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To: PJammers

Bumping because after reading your first two posts you have done a more succinct synopsis of options trading than I have ever found on investment sites.

Thanks, sheers and good luck.

Southpark


33 posted on 10/16/2017 8:28:23 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: Diogenesis

The housing bubble caused the 2008 market crash. Soros is evil enough but he didn’t have a role in the housing bubble.


34 posted on 10/16/2017 8:35:53 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: SouthParkRepublican

Thanks friend. Best wishes to you and yours.


35 posted on 10/17/2017 6:18:50 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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