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Las Vegas Shooting: muzzle flash, what muzzle flash? There was NONE. [VANITY]
http://www.FreeRepublic.com ^ | October 9, 2017 | CivilWarBrewing

Posted on 10/09/2017 1:02:01 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing

Regarding the Las Vegas shooting, I would like to point out that in none of the videos which capture glimpses of the 32nd floor at Mandalay Bay during the shooting do I see ANY muzzle flashes whatsoever.

I am by far no firearms expect. Not by a long shot (no pun intended). But I DO know that high-powered rifles including AR-15's, etc., would create a highly-noticeable muzzle flash or burst of 'flame' at night measuring at least a foot in diameter, at least.

A shooter with his weapon poised towards the outside of the window should be easily seen when discharging his weapon with automatic fire (using bump stocks) at night. Even with a flash suppressor of some sort, shouldn't we STILL be able to see gun flare or flashes of light during firing?

In this CNN video, I see no evidence of anyone firing a weapon from Mandalay: New video of concertgoers running for their lives Disturbing Video just released

I have reviewed multiple videos from that night, and I have come to the conclusion that the shooter or shooters weren't based on the 32nd floor. I believe that some of Mandalay Bay's lower floor windows can be opened and I would also consider the snipers being located in another location other than Mandalay Bay. Paddock being on the 32nd floor could be a diversion. He could've been murdered even before the shooting began and the ENTIRE SCENE STAGED to divert from the real source of the carnage we'll never know.

Also, witness Brianna Hendricks stated that a Hispanic woman in the crowd yelled "you're all gonna die tonight" 45 minutes BEFORE the shooting started. Why haven't we heard anything more about this? The media is ignoring this critical clue which points to possible advanced knowledge of this massacre.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: attack; barkingmoonbat; conspiracytheory; keeperofoddknowledge; mandalay; notapatsy; shooting; vegas; vegasshooting
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“He could’ve been murdered”

Autopsy complete. No info being released.

http://www.khq.com/story/36554810/las-vegas-shooting-autopsy-on-gunmans-body-complete


21 posted on 10/09/2017 1:54:32 PM PDT by glenduh
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To: TruBluKentuckian

I believe you’re thinking of a video of a strobe flashing in a reflection on a window. I’ve watched every bit of the live video, at least once, and never saw muzzle flash.


22 posted on 10/09/2017 1:58:53 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: TexasGunLover

No, it was plainly muzzle flashes from the 32nd floor. As I said they had it circled and it was in the right location.

I was the first on here to expose the strobe light issue. Everybody was claiming it was a 2nd shooter and it was plainly not, it was a strobe light. Videos before and after the shooting show it still flashing.


23 posted on 10/09/2017 2:02:19 PM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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To: CivilWarBrewing

You’ve never been on an Army night-fire range, have you.


24 posted on 10/09/2017 2:05:47 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: RitaOK

One of the things I find curious about the scene is that I don’t see any signs that he was wearing any kind of hearing protection.


25 posted on 10/09/2017 2:12:56 PM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: sevlex

Could he have been using smokeless powder? The Japanese used it during WW2.


26 posted on 10/09/2017 2:14:25 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: wideminded

Impossible. Building codes and fire regulations don’t allow that.


27 posted on 10/09/2017 2:15:23 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Did the front desk get any calls about someone smashing the huge windows before the shooting? If people inside the hotel heard the shooting, they SURE AS HELL HEARD THE WINDOWS BEING SMASHED BEFORE THE SHOOTING.

I doubt he smashed the windows and then took a break, watched a little TV and relaxed for a bit.

The gunfire most likely started within seconds after the windows were smashed which means anyone calling about broken glass would've been calling in the middle of all the pandemonium.

28 posted on 10/09/2017 2:18:14 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: CivilWarBrewing

You are definitely not an expert. The “flash suppressors” were put on those things specifically to reduce the flash. At night, a 5.56mm muzzle flash is a few little orange spikes that flash out radially from the suppressor. They don’t hurt your eyes or even interfere with your night vision.


29 posted on 10/09/2017 2:20:45 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Video camera images from a cell phone are highly processed and compressed and are not the same as what the human eye would see or what film would preserve. When there are bright areas at night, cell phone video cameras brighten them up for maximum clarity and leave dark areas with little definition. Small and brief flashes of light hundreds of feet away usually end up getting suppressed. Try it yourself by taking some video at night of distant scenes that are almost entirely in the dark.


30 posted on 10/09/2017 2:35:26 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: CivilWarBrewing

In at least one of the videos of people fleeing - you can hear one fellow say - he saw muzzle flash from Mandalay Bay. I think it was one of the ones with security guys getting people behind concrete barriers. Sorry - no link. But - I think that’s better evidence than any video.


31 posted on 10/09/2017 2:39:46 PM PDT by GG-1
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To: caligatrux
He would have been deaf and yet he detected Jesus Campos outside his door.

...because he had surveillance cameras set up.

But all accounts indicate the cameras weren't recording when the swat team finally made it to the door.

32 posted on 10/09/2017 2:49:48 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: RC one

I doubt the cameras were ever recording (or attached to a recording device) - he was using them for surveillance.


33 posted on 10/09/2017 2:55:55 PM PDT by GG-1
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To: GG-1
I guess it hasn't been clarified what is meant by "not recording". I took that to mean, not actually being used to surveil anything. Also interesting that Campos was only hit once in the leg despite 200 rounds being shot at him through the door he was, apparently, standing right in front of. pretty lucky guy there.

There are reports that the swat team "exchanged gun fire" with Paddock before breaching the door with explosives and finding him dead on the floor from, what was described as, a self inflicted gun shot wound to the head.

This video contradicts that statement. The SWAT team didn't even know if Paddock was still in the room when they blew the door open.

34 posted on 10/09/2017 3:08:20 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: RC one

He was a prepared guy. Not having hearing protection doesn’t make much sense. Maybe he took it off before he shot himself and it’s just not in the pictures.


35 posted on 10/09/2017 3:12:53 PM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: RC one

Also interesting - it was just revealed at the LV Sherrif Presser that Campos was shot BEFORE the melee began. And Campos also reported hearing “drilling” - Sherrif said the drilling wasn’t complete.


36 posted on 10/09/2017 3:16:11 PM PDT by GG-1
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To: caligatrux

I wondered about that, as well. Perhaps it was blown across the room when he shot himself, but right now it does remain a good question.


37 posted on 10/09/2017 3:16:13 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: caligatrux

Hearing protection comes in many forms - not just big over the ear cans. He might have had plugs in.


38 posted on 10/09/2017 3:18:33 PM PDT by GG-1
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Here's what I suggest you do.

Decide what you want to believe. The pick and choose that information that supports those beliefs. Disregard and ignore the information that contradicts what you believe.

I mean, might as well, that's how so many people do it, and they seem to live decently happy lives. People on all sides of the political spectrum happily engage in this sort of delusionary thinking. Its human nature apparently. Don't let us dissuade you.

39 posted on 10/09/2017 3:20:28 PM PDT by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
1)the flash you see in movies and on tv is NOT what happens in real life

2)he was smart enough to NOT stick the muzzle out the window

40 posted on 10/09/2017 3:21:20 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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