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Motive of Shooter (Vanity)

Posted on 10/05/2017 8:01:12 AM PDT by blabs

So up to this point, we have an individual who had practically no social media presence or public footprint, no voting record, traveled heavily, had numerous homes which were paid for in cash, a foreigner for a girlfriend, wired $100,000 offshore to the Phillipines, was reclusive and never at home, had an abundance of money, an extremely large cache of weapons for someone who was not a “gun” guy, had worked for numerous government “contractors” most of which are in the defense and aerospace industry including Lockheed Martin, and recent revelations that there are strange inconsistencies with a previously owned airplane, hundreds of massive money withdrawals at casinos (possibly a front for money laundering), and other strange oddities. IMO, there are a lot of red flags here, and the big question remains - What was the MOTIVE? This guy did not just snap. This was a well planned operation. How about this for a motive -

All of this is hypothetical of course and don't necessarily believe in conspiracies, but for the sake of lively discussion lets say this guy was a spook, as there are quite a few hallmarks that point to this possibly being so. Or perhaps he was somehow intertwined in some type of government operation, at possibly a high level, and turned on the US government for a bigger payday. If you needed to move "something”, something large or irregular, something that would raise an eyebrow or attract attention from lets say law enforcement, such as state troopers, highway patrol, local police, or truck checkpoints, and you were on a “schedule/timeline” to get this “something” somewhere for a either a transfer/pickup/shipment, how could you help facilitate the transport? How could you help remove as much law enforcement presence from the route to aid in this transfer?

What if this shooting was merely a distraction for a much bigger plot? What better way to have practically all law enforcement personnel within a 50-100 mile radius move to the epicenter for all-hands-on-deck, helping to "clear" the route to the destination even at the cost of your own life (or perhaps was planning to escape, but was double crossed by a second shooter). What if the $100,000 was sent as funds to help facilitate this shipment/transfer to its final destination, such as China/Russia/North Korea, which are all not far from the Phillipines?

IMO, time is of the essence, and it would be prudent for the FBI/CIA to check all the highway camera footage on or around the time of the shooting for trucks/shipments that are conspicuous in nature, skipped check points, etc., especially en-route to the LA/Long Beach Port area. I would also check all vessel departures to the Phillipines/China/Russia/Korea area from the LA/Long Beach port on the night or the next day of the shooting. Again, this is all just hypothetical, and I'm not sure what this "something" could be, whether its small arms, military technology, or something bigger, but there are a lot of government/military facilities all around the Nevada area.

/Conspiracy Hat Off


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; paddock; shooter; vegas
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To: ponygirl

If not guns, what about human trafficking — sex trade from Indonesia etc


21 posted on 10/05/2017 8:29:34 AM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: ponygirl
We were talking about the gun-runner hypothesis last night. Someone had speculated this was a gun deal gone bad. My thought was, if you were transferring an arsenal of high powered weapons and ammunition, would you do it from a 32nd floor hotel room? Requiring carrying all that stuff upstairs and then carrying it all back down? I think we can cross that theory off the list.


I don't really believe the whole 'gun running' theory, but I don't see why being on the 32nd floor would have anything to do with it. You take the luggage dolly down to your car, you load it, go to the elevator, and press a floor - what does it matter what floor you get off on, the elevator is doing the work. Also, being in a suite offers a lot more privacy, it's less suspicious taking lots of luggage, and they typically are located on higher floors, with better views. IF I wanted privacy for some illicit activity, I would probably want a suite, and it would probably be on a higher floor.
22 posted on 10/05/2017 8:42:48 AM PDT by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: blabs

My theory- It was an assassination hit on an individual- He sprayed the crowd so as not to miss him and to use it as a mass murder cover. Check all the individuals at the first concert event and the second one- I`ll bet you`ll find a name there that rings a bell in D.C.
Assassination by crowd cover.


23 posted on 10/05/2017 8:44:49 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: bunkerhill7

You’re not going to be able to do that effectively at that range with a red dot.

My personal guess is that he was a rich, entitled, “smart guy” who was reaching the end of his health and decided he wanted to make a name for himself and go out in a blaze of glory, real life James Bond, etc.

And while he was at it, why not take a bunch of deplorables with him?

Problem is, real life isn’t James Bond, and he didn’t have a jet pack to make his escape with.


24 posted on 10/05/2017 9:08:48 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: bunkerhill7

Perhaps ISIS hired him for a terrorist attack.

Paid him the $100k in advance, the rest to come after the fact. Planned his escape to Philippines with girlfriend.

Did the deed. ISIS moved in and offed him before he could escape.


25 posted on 10/05/2017 9:10:45 AM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: MMaschin; All

Re: the 32nd floor and guns

Every year for the last 5 I’ve attended the national Field Target match and gone with associates into hotels with the luggage dolly filled to the top with rifle cases and equipment cases/dope bags. Nobody ever really even gives it a second thought.


26 posted on 10/05/2017 9:11:40 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: blabs
At this stage, we could put a million monkeys at typewriters and a few thousand of them might come up with possible answers - maybe we should add some of the investigators to the steno pool to see if they come up with anything.

So far, everything about this deal is an anomaly and one must wonder how much truth will come out an dhow much will be buried.

27 posted on 10/05/2017 9:48:57 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: blabs

Should we not consider the possibility that it really was an ISIS terrorist attack? The frightening part of that is that they recruited an old white guy who would not be profiled as a terrorist. Why were the authorities so quick to deny any link before doing an investigation?


28 posted on 10/05/2017 10:19:52 AM PDT by christie
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To: blabs

I’m fairly convinced paddock wasn’t the only shooter.


29 posted on 10/05/2017 9:58:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: reasonisfaith
Possible motives of a CIA perpetrator:

Another, a classic:

I was only following orders....

30 posted on 10/06/2017 1:34:28 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: blabs; LS

A possibility is the deep state went to work trying to figure out the one issue they think they can best use to separate Trump from his base, and they came up with gun control.

In this scenario, the thinking would be that Trump could be swayed on gun control in response to something horrible like the Las Vegas massacre. And that if he goes against his campaign promises on gun control, then his base will abandon him and they can impeach.

Just speculating. Who knows.


31 posted on 10/08/2017 7:22:55 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

Of course, this would depend on a Paddock-deep state alliance.


32 posted on 10/08/2017 7:37:40 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

If so, they misjudged.


33 posted on 10/09/2017 7:19:03 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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