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What Would a Starship Want With God? Star Trek's Complicated Relationship With Religion
National Catholic Register ^ | Sept. 26, 2017 | Steven D. Greydanus

Posted on 09/27/2017 4:32:33 AM PDT by iowamark

“What would God want with a starship?”

That line, uttered by William Shatner’s Capt. James T. Kirk in the much-derided Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (1989) — co-written and directed by Shatner himself — is probably that film’s most famous (or infamous) moment.

In the weeks building up to the recent debut of CBS’s new series Star Trek: Discovery, buzz around the franchise has raised a different question: What would a starship want with God?

The topic was raised several weeks ago when a news story spelled out that — in keeping with Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry’s secular-humanist brand of sci-fi utopianism — the word “God” will not be uttered on the new series, even in casual profanities like “for God’s sake.”

Since many Christians object to profanity in entertainment, this proscription would seem to be welcome news for faith audiences. The context and motivation, though, elicited concern from Star Trek fans who are believers.

One common response has been to rattle off examples of positive religious references and images from The Original Series (TOS) onward, from scenes set in the original Enterprise’s interfaith chapel to the episode “Bread and Circuses,” which depicted an Earth-like planet with a parallel Roman Empire persecuting an underground faith originally thought to be sun worshippers, but whose deity Uhura ultimately says isn’t “the sun in the sky; it’s the Son of God.”

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TOPICS: Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: catholic; generoddenberry; startrek
Steven D. Greydanus is the Register’s film critic and creator of Decent Films.
He is a permanent deacon in the Archdiocese of Newark, New Jersey.
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1 posted on 09/27/2017 4:32:33 AM PDT by iowamark
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Perhaps not incidentally, Star Trek: The Motion Picture and Star Trek V: The Final Frontier are widely regarded as the worst and most boring of the TOS crew feature films.

Roddenberry was a true creative visionary, but — much like the visionary behind that other immense sci-fi franchise, Star Wars — he could sometimes be his own worst enemy, and the best version of his own creative vision often emerged from fruitful collaboration with other creative minds, sometimes with conflicting visions.

In particular, the first season of Star Trek: The Next Generation (TNG) limped badly under the constraints of Roddenberry’s increasingly rigid humanistic vision, which eventually more or less precluded human conflict...

2 posted on 09/27/2017 4:37:42 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark
Kirock would not be pleased...


3 posted on 09/27/2017 4:42:18 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: iowamark

I recorded and watched the new ST, on the ‘free’ network channel.

It was ‘ok’. After Voyager I swore I wouldn’t get involved in another estrogen fueled ST series (Jeri Ryan was its only saving grace until she caused Obama to be senator then president). And I won’t, especially since I need to pay extra for this one. Perhaps I’ll peruse it later on when it’s on Netflix or Amazon prime, which I already pay for. I suspect it will fail on a new pay service......especially a new pay cbs.


4 posted on 09/27/2017 4:46:05 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. .)
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To: Yo-Yo

‘Kirk to Enterprise’ opens the stone slab door. Like ali baba’s ‘open sesame’. Or like Popeyes’s ‘Open sez me’


5 posted on 09/27/2017 4:48:35 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. .)
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To: Yo-Yo

Kirock...one of the most ridiculous Star Trek episodes ever...

Behold the god who bleeds...


6 posted on 09/27/2017 4:48:48 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: iowamark

I thought The Final Frontier was pretty entertaining. Everyone was under the mind control of Spock’s brother, acing just like brain-washed collectivists searching for God and an end to personal guilt and personal pain.

It all comes crashing down when Kirk speaks up and asks the obvious, common sense question. It illustrates the importance of free speech in the face of groupthink.


7 posted on 09/27/2017 4:53:11 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: iowamark

The human soul is its own starship.


8 posted on 09/27/2017 5:02:36 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: iowamark

On the original series (ST-TOS) it wasn’t complicated at all.
Episode - ‘Bread and Circuses’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnD-rjPJ3Xw
Episode - ‘Who Mourns for Adonais?’: Kirk: “Mankind has no need for gods. We find the one quite adequate.” (sorry I can’t find a clip)


9 posted on 09/27/2017 5:30:42 AM PDT by golas1964
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To: iowamark

Science fiction, like all fiction, is the depiction of the liberals’ ideal world. That would be without religion (except for *slam, which they love.)

In science fiction, the viewer needs to turn off critical thinking, and willingly accept things that are impossible. This makes it very easy for the author to slip in his agenda, which will be received without question.

When other planets are colonized, and when humans start off on a generations-long space voyage, God will not be with them, and the accumulated wisdom of a civilization based on Christianity will remain on Earth. It will be Godless to the extreme (except for *slam, which they love.)


10 posted on 09/27/2017 6:24:43 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Constantly doing things in opposition to human nature is insanity.)
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To: Vaquero

The cast of Discovery all took a knee in solidarity of the NFL players. I won’t be watching. And I won’t be getting CBS All Access.


11 posted on 09/27/2017 7:21:53 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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I won’t pay for CBS ALL ACCESS, either

90 something percent of actors are leftists buttwads. Some are good at what they do.....and the best of those keep their mouths shut away from the sound stage.

I rarely pay for movies anymore. I have a little more than basic cable. That, Netflix and Amazon prime are my only sources of entertainment.


12 posted on 09/27/2017 11:10:15 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. .)
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To: Vaquero

To be fair to Jeri Ryan, that wasn’t her fault: Obama did Alinsky-style Chicago politics via the Chicago Tribune where she and her husband were legally forced by a judge to expose divorce records to the public, something they fought against to protect their son.


13 posted on 04/02/2018 6:14:30 AM PDT by otness_e
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