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This MLB fan-danger problem should’ve been fixed 47 years ago
NYPost ^ | September 20, 2017

Posted on 09/20/2017 5:32:59 PM PDT by SMGFan

Every time we see a fresh version of the same terrifying picture, we hear the same thing from relieved broadcasters, fans, ballplayers. Every time a baseball leaves a bat — screaming at 100 miles an hour — and invades the seats where spectators are swilling sodas, scarfing nachos or texting friends, we hear the same: “One of these days, someone is going to get killed.”

Well, here’s the thing: someone already got killed. His name was Alan Fish, he was 14 years old, and on the night of May 16, 1970, he was sitting behind the visitor’s dugout at Dodger Stadium. In the bottom of the third inning, San Francisco’s Gaylord Perry threw a pitch that the Dodgers’ Manny Mota, batting right-handed, ripped foul. It reached the second row

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To: octex

Excellent, accurate observation !


61 posted on 09/21/2017 5:37:58 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: ThomasSawyer

Lawyering defense doesn’t help. Remember the kid who had head ripped off going down the water slide? It was a net, installed to protect. And it didn’t help with the defense at all. Millions baby, millions. When you install protections you are ADMITTING TO HAZARDS. So the people in row forty can now claim that the netting below in insufficient, it should extended to the rafters. Trust me on this, baseball is fine the way it is, the law presumes that you know that baseballs occur at a BASEBALL GAME.


62 posted on 09/21/2017 5:43:29 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: ThomasSawyer

Foul ball physics are well understood:

http://foulballz.com/foul-ball/no-netting-needed-contrary-to-popular-belief-baseball-fan-reaction-times-are-sufficient-when-paying-attention/

... the average human response time to stimuli is roughly 268 milliseconds (ms), according the Human Benchmark...

...A ball traveling off the bat at 100 MHP will travel 50 feet in 340 ms, 60 feet in 410 ms and 70 feet in 480 ms...


63 posted on 09/21/2017 5:47:20 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: metmom

I could have taken one of my now grown daughters at that age she was nice and calm but the other forget about it! The Yankees need to put more protection up in that area.


64 posted on 09/21/2017 5:48:55 AM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: angcat

I do.

You gotta bring ‘em up right.


65 posted on 09/21/2017 5:49:09 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Kozak

Or go walking in the Dodgers’ parking lot wearing a visiting team jersey.


66 posted on 09/21/2017 5:52:35 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Me too. If your sitting directly behind the net, the focal point is beyond the netting, the netting will become nearly invisible. In the case of a foul ball, if you keep your eyes on the ball the netting will become visible as the ball approaches the net.

I think it would be more of a visual impairment for those sitting father away due to the small weaving and the fact that your focal point is much broader.

Personally for me having attended several hundred baseball games, my attention is always on the field to the greatest extent possible. I go to games to watch the game and not for the social interaction.


67 posted on 09/21/2017 5:59:25 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: octex

Exactly. It is innate and probably nature vs nurture. Women are by far more perceptive than men and many a joke has been made about these differences between men and women.

But, IMO, is necessary for our specialized roles in raising and nurturing children.

I certainly feel sorry for the lady. There was ample time for someone to interrupt her so that she could avoid getting hit. It was surprising that no one around her noticed the ball flying towards them. Maybe they lost track of it because it flew so high in the air. For us, it was like watching a slow motion accident and it was slow with ample time to react. I wonder how she is doing. That kind of injury might result in long term damage.


68 posted on 09/21/2017 6:39:32 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: tomkat

Used to ‘sharpen’ the spikes to get a better ‘grip’.
Whatever the reason, whenever sliding into a base FEET FIRST, most people didn’t linger. (Also, in todays game, one can only dream of the mayhem that could be caused by the second baseman or Shortstop STANDING- flat footed on the bag after throwing towards first. KNOWING had he been standing like that ‘back in the day’, the left fielder would be having some ‘company’)

‘No one’ can understand why ‘we’ (a certain generation) thinks rubber cleats are not ‘usable’.

Of course when you learn to ‘play ball’ in a cow pasture using ‘cow pies’ as bases (week old—but center still ‘soft’), those rocky infields that get worked on once a quarter were easy and you learned to run the bases ONLY touching the corner and never never never (well almost never) would one dive into a cow pie head first.

Never did have to use ‘horse apples’ for balls but did get a lot of game out of a ‘used baseball’..Organized didn’t change the ball until is SHOWED lots of wear and when the stitches started to go, electricians tape was used to keep the ball together.

Yes, a black ball so you could ‘find’ it in the snow.

It was a deadly weapon once it got drenched and saturated.. put a medicine ball to shame ..

Like ‘they’ say, childhood is wasted on the young.


69 posted on 09/21/2017 6:55:50 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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To: octex; dhs12345

Same behavior occurs in bars, restaurants, etc.
= = = = = = = =
Mainly because you know & ‘trust’ the person you are talking to.

Since EVERYone can’t sit - facing the door, the group tries to sit at the bar with a larger mirror or a table with a mirror nearby.

Of course your ‘buddies’ have their eyes out for you also.

I can’t go to baseball games anymore, with all the BS going on between innings, people up and down like ‘jacksintheboxes’ constantly, the team ‘excuses’ me from about 158 out of the 162 games as I am not going to ‘show up’ on

ANY COLLEGE NIGHT
LGBT NIGHT or associated
USAF, USMC, USArmy, USCG night.
Music ‘STAR’ night mainly because it draws the crowd that comes JUST for the ‘singer(??)’
Maybe a night of Tschiakovsky or Strauss but them classic fans can get ‘rowdy’ also
Don’t need racing hot dogs, presidents, IDIOTS running around in costumes trying to grab hold of you.

I would love to see at least ONE GAME A YEAR with NOTHING but 9 innings (or more) of baseball, only serving Beer, soft drinks and hot dogs and the only people in the stands are the fans and ushers - first come first seated could go a long way to not needing ushers....


70 posted on 09/21/2017 7:09:55 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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To: relictele

In which the NY post relies on the Fallacy of the Dramatic Example to prove its ‘case.’


Every doctor and veteranarian uses this Fallacy to herd people into compliance.

And certainly if this fallacy were really followed everywhere, no child should ever play a sport at all.


71 posted on 09/21/2017 7:15:00 AM PDT by Yaelle (Socialism, faithfully implemented, delivers anguish and devastation. - President Trump)
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To: xrmusn
Like ‘they’ say, childhood is wasted on the young.

And that, my FRiend, is a maxim that only the aging process can truly validate.

72 posted on 09/21/2017 7:15:59 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

You are absolutely, 110% correct. I played tackle football on hard dirt with sidewalks and driveways as endzones growing up. When I joined the official school team, they gave me pads and a helmet... I was SUPERMAN... No fear whatsoever throwing my body around.


73 posted on 09/21/2017 9:37:14 AM PDT by HeadOn (I'd compare liberals to spoiled third-graders, but I'm not sure liberals are that smart.)
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To: Figment; freedomjusticeruleoflaw

LOL, you just made me think of something... Remember how the older cars had chrome bumpers? Then the engineers figured out how the collapsible bumpers were safer, taking the energy out of the collision. If a NASCAR car has a wreck, if flies to pieces, based on the same thing.

SO- Maybe just make helmets that fly apart when guys get speared. Saves the refs having to make a judgement call!

“Helmet disintegration, number 62. Player will be ejected from the game, and a new helmet ordered at his expense. 15 yards, 1st down!” The ref’s motion would be putting his fists on his head, throwing them out quickly while spreading his fingers... :-D


74 posted on 09/21/2017 9:47:38 AM PDT by HeadOn (I'd compare liberals to spoiled third-graders, but I'm not sure liberals are that smart.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Last year 73 million people attended MLB games.

Let’s say 50 million is a mean number over the past 47 years. That’s a 1 in 2.3 billion chance of being killed by a foul ball.


75 posted on 09/21/2017 11:33:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Hot Tabasco

“...netting at Comerica Park”

Hasn’t been much to watch there lately. I do remember the 68 team with the best pitching staff, The last 30 game winner.... to bad he could not stay out of truoble


76 posted on 09/21/2017 11:38:14 AM PDT by Quick Shot
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Let’s say 50 million is a mean number over the past 47 years. That’s a 1 in 2.3 billion chance of being killed by a foul ball.

We're no longer talking about people being killed, we're talking about injuries that could be avoided if there were a corner to corner netting along the box seats from behind the plate to somewhere beyond 3rd base and the outfield fence.......

77 posted on 09/21/2017 1:19:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: xrmusn

The minors and farm teams are a lot of fun. Cheap and everyone has a good seat. :)


78 posted on 09/21/2017 2:32:57 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: HeadOn

Or, if your helmet cracks, you’re done.


79 posted on 09/21/2017 6:06:06 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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