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So, then, you do not believe that Yehova made a special effort to have his word delivered in a manner that sent his message plainly, and unmistakably? (to avoid having his sheep dependent upon nicolaitans to deliver his word)
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149 posted on 09/22/2017 7:43:59 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
So, then, you do not believe that Yehova made a special effort to have his word delivered in a manner that sent his message plainly, and unmistakably? (to avoid having his sheep dependent upon nicolaitans to deliver his word)

I think the Bible has a lot in it, including very plain and clear language. It also has Psalms and poetry. It also has prophecies which seem less plain to me. It seems to have lists of generations that I find less interesting to read, and I seem to get less out of then the parables of Jesus for example. It has historical chronicles of the Kings of Israel and Judah. It has riddles in it, like what the hand wrote on the wall in the book of Daniel....that one being explained, but some of the riddles in Daniel's visions not being explained to us yet. It seems to have Lucifer represented as a snake in the Garden of Eden, and as a dragon in the Revelation of Jesus witness through Saint John. It has the messages Jesus sent to the 7 churches in that revelation...with specific messages. It has specific messages Saint Paul sent to various churches in Early Christendom, that we can learn from although they were not directed to us.

Do I think it all inspired revelation from God? I think the parts that claim to be are. But I am not sure the parts that are just chronicles of what happened like 1 and 2 Kings are exactly "revelations".

Do I think it all "plain language"...well no, unless you mean something different than "plain language" than I do. It seems that prophecies have symbolic riddles in them sometimes that are not plain at all.

But the Bible has a lot of"plain language" in it. God for example rests on the seventh day. God gets angry and even jealous sometimes. These passages convey in plain language that everybody can relate to something that is more difficult to understand about God. God for instance does not "get angry" in the sense that we do. When we get angry we enter a period of time where the passion of anger sets up shop and precludes other attitudes during that duration. Our anger is not necessarily always righteous by our nature as God's anger is necessarily righteous by His. God transcends time and is eternal. He does not really need to "rest" and He is all powerful, and He does not really need to "make a special effort" in the sense we have to make an effort. He did choose to have some if not all of these limitations as Jesus on Earth (I do not presume to know exactly what limitations he had here, seems highly speculative). A naive skeptic might ask how God could be incarnate in Jesus and "at the same time" be the Father in Heaven, and to answer the skeptic takes a good understanding of...wait for it...Theology.

151 posted on 09/22/2017 11:51:00 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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