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To: Sequoyah101

Actually he did arrest her. He also handcuffed her and placed her in a police car. When the police restrict your ability to voluntarily leave, they have seized. Being “seized” by the police while not technically arrested is tantamount to arrest. As is being detained. The police are reluctant to say, “You are under arrest for _______[fill in blank] because when they say,”You are under arrest” then your Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendment Constitutional Rights kick in. That is when the investigation switches from investigatory to accusatory ones Constitutional Rights kick in. Abe Fortas wrote an informative essay on that. And he did inform her that she was under arrest.


106 posted on 09/02/2017 10:46:24 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

I’m just describing the manner of his actions. He did attack her and then I’ll take it that he detained her but I never did hear him say you are under arrest for what? Doing her job?

I am not arguing with you but I never heard him say it and I won’t go over the tape again because it makes me sick.

Articles say this clod is on the “blood draw unit”. They have such a thing? Why? I sure would not want him drawing my blood.


108 posted on 09/02/2017 10:54:19 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: sport

If you can stand to watch this link has a set of photos and videos. One is him and a fellow thug justifying what he did.

https://everipedia.org/wiki/jeff-payne-detective/

In the tape he ponders the effect on his side job of ambulance driving saying he will bring the dregs to this hospital and the good people to somewhere else.

Why is the taxpayer still supporting him? He is a creep and a criminal.


109 posted on 09/02/2017 11:18:06 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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