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To: Fred Nerks

Cindy Pratt told David Maraniss that Stanley Ann/Ann S. Obama lived at the Kalanianaole Highway address prior to the pregnancy. Cindy described a “makeshift room,” in the hallway outside the Dunham’s room.

Having read Cindy’s comments, as transcribed by Maraniss, I can’t picture her as some kind of super-liar/conspiracy-enabler. She came across as artlessly honest, imo.


63 posted on 08/28/2017 9:23:28 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
There's no need to think that Cindy Pratt may have lied to Maraniss. She remembered a girl at the Pratt/Dunham address. She, and Maraniss assumed her name was Ann S Obama student as shown in the Polk directory. The question remains, was Ann S Obama Stanley Ann Dunham?

In late 1960 Ann S Obama was living at that address, in time to be included in the Polk directory for 1961. She was also enrolled at the university for Fall 1960. We are expected to assume that enrolment was for Stanley Ann.

But Stanley Ann Dunham was nowhere in sight, she wasn't at the Mercer Island high school to graduate Class of 1960 in the summer, she was in Chicago, and according to Dreams, saw the film Black Orpheus which was released in December 1959.

Dreams also tells you she didn't want to go to Hawaii with her parents, she had been accepted to attend the university in Chicago, where just by coincidence, not mentioned in the book, her maternal uncle was deputy director of the library, and lived in Hyde Park. Madelyn also had a sister named Margaret who had a connection to the same university...

It's just a theory. No harm done if no one agrees or can't see what seems obvious to me.

64 posted on 08/28/2017 11:15:43 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fantasywriter

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=131914394

She grew up in Kansas and earned a BS in Nutrition and Dietetics from Kansas State University, an MS I Nutrition Research and Education from Teachers College, Columbia University and a PhD in Measurement and Statistical Analysis from the University of Chicago.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8083967.stm

After the war, Mr Payne went to college in Kansas, and then on to graduate school at the University of Chicago.

He later specialised in the use of computers in libraries, retiring at the age of 70 as the assistant director of the University of Chicago Library


65 posted on 08/28/2017 11:28:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fantasywriter

I looked for Cindy’s comments to Maraniss and all I could find was this:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/06/maraniss_bio_deepens_obama_birth_mystery.html

“Maraniss hints at where home was not — namely, the residence her parents shared with the Pratt family at 6085 Kalanianole Highway, the address listed on the birth certificate. As Maraniss relates, the Pratt daughter, then an adolescent, “has no memory of the Dunhams’ daughter bringing an infant home.” He adds, “[Ann] and Obama and the infant never lived [at 6085 Kalanianole].”

As I do not have access to the book, perhaps you could quote from it, exactly what she said to Maraniss. Thanks.


66 posted on 08/29/2017 12:10:31 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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