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To: Fantasywriter
There's no need to think that Cindy Pratt may have lied to Maraniss. She remembered a girl at the Pratt/Dunham address. She, and Maraniss assumed her name was Ann S Obama student as shown in the Polk directory. The question remains, was Ann S Obama Stanley Ann Dunham?

In late 1960 Ann S Obama was living at that address, in time to be included in the Polk directory for 1961. She was also enrolled at the university for Fall 1960. We are expected to assume that enrolment was for Stanley Ann.

But Stanley Ann Dunham was nowhere in sight, she wasn't at the Mercer Island high school to graduate Class of 1960 in the summer, she was in Chicago, and according to Dreams, saw the film Black Orpheus which was released in December 1959.

Dreams also tells you she didn't want to go to Hawaii with her parents, she had been accepted to attend the university in Chicago, where just by coincidence, not mentioned in the book, her maternal uncle was deputy director of the library, and lived in Hyde Park. Madelyn also had a sister named Margaret who had a connection to the same university...

It's just a theory. No harm done if no one agrees or can't see what seems obvious to me.

64 posted on 08/28/2017 11:15:43 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Just as an aside. I don’t take a word of Dreams seriously, including the, ‘ands,’ and the, ‘thes,’. It’s the last source I would consult if I wanted facts. Every fact that’s checkable has been shown to be a lie. The only, ‘facts,’ that remain are those that haven’t been absolutely disproven...yet.

Stanley Ann Dunham [i.e.: her memory] is annually feted as the most illustrious Mercer Island HS graduate to this day. I won’t ask you to believe she graduated with her class if you won’t ask me to believe she didn’t. I hope that suffices.


68 posted on 08/29/2017 7:35:34 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fred Nerks
I agree, and I believe that the biggest misdirection in the case, is SAD's time in Chicago.

My personal belief is this.
1) After graduation, SAD goes to Chicago, where she intends to attend UofC in the fall.
2) SAD becomes pregnant during the summer, and her parents bring her to Hawaii.
3) SAD attend UofH fall semester 61.
4) In early spring 61, while ~7 months pregnant, SAD travels to WA.
5) Late spring 61, SAD travels to Canada to give birth, where she does not specify a father. My assumption for why she goes to Canada, is that she does not what her child to be American.
6) SAD's impetuous decision to give birth in Canada creates problems when she finds out that the situations - her being under 19, and no father specified on BC - leads to her child not being a legal US resident.
7) SAD's parents present a at home birth certificate, and enlist the help of Barrack Obama Sr in the ruse. They get him to agree to claim to be the father of the baby, to present evidence that baby was his, and was in fact born in HA. This leads to Sr's inconsistent claims of fatherhood.


The above is my person belief as to why Obama was forced to present a fraudulent birth certificate.
70 posted on 08/29/2017 7:54:01 AM PDT by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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