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To: Robert DeLong

Well, if he used slaves that didn’t want to be experimented on then he’s a terrible human being. It’s like those guys that infected a bunch of black army guys with gonorrhea or whatever as an experiment.


18 posted on 08/27/2017 2:04:38 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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Well you have the facts just a wee bit wrong concerning the Tuskegee Study, as I'm sure many do. First off, no one was infected with the disease who did not have the disease. Here is what supposedly happened.

The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, also known as the Tuskegee Syphilis Study or Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service. The purpose of this study was to observe the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African-American men in Alabama under the guise of receiving free health care from the United States government.

The Public Health Service started working on this study in 1932, in collaboration with Tuskegee University, a historically black college in Alabama. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished, African American sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama. Of these men, 399 had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201 did not have the disease. The men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance for participating in the study. After funding for treatment was lost, the study was continued without informing the men they would never be treated. None of the men infected were ever told they had the disease, and none were treated with penicillin even after the antibiotic was proven to successfully treat syphilis. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.

The 40-year study was controversial for reasons related to ethical standards. Researchers knowingly failed to treat patients appropriately after the 1940s validation of penicillin was found as an effective cure for the disease they were studying. Revelation in 1972 of study failures by a whistleblower led to major changes in U.S. law and regulation on the protection of participants in clinical studies. Now studies require informed consent, communication of diagnosis, and accurate reporting of test results.

By 1947, penicillin had become the standard treatment for syphilis. Choices available to the doctors involved in the study might have included treating all syphilitic subjects and closing the study, or splitting off a control group for testing with penicillin. Instead, the Tuskegee scientists continued the study without treating any participants; they withheld penicillin and information about it from the patients. In addition, scientists prevented participants from accessing syphilis treatment programs available to other residents in the area. The study continued, under numerous US Public Health Service supervisors, until 1972, when a leak to the press resulted in its termination on November 16 of that year. The victims of the study, all African American, included numerous men who died of syphilis, 40 wives who contracted the disease, and 19 children born with congenital syphilis.

The Tuskegee Syphilis Study, cited as "arguably the most infamous biomedical research study in U.S. history", led to the 1979 Belmont Report and the establishment of the Office for Human Research Protections (OHRP). It also led to federal laws and regulations requiring Institutional Review Boards for the protection of human subjects in studies involving them. The Office for Human Research Protections (OHRP) manages this responsibility within the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

So as you can see, no one was infected that had been previously disease free, & they were not black men in the military.. The horror instead was the denial of treatment even though a known cure had been confirmed decades before the study was stopped.Now if it can be proven that this man either experimented upon women who had not been afflicted with this problem, or he made the condition exist by artificial means, then by all means he was a monster. So far I have seen nothing that even suggests that this occurred.

Now there have been accusations that American researchers infected Guatemalans in the military, along with mental patients and prisoners, with syphilis and gonorrhea, then left without treating them, back in 1948. The experiments’ discovery—was made by Susan Reverby, a historian at Wellesley College, in 2003. I personally haven't seen the evidence to support the claim, but in 20109 then–Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had issued a public apology to the government of Guatemala for violating its citizens’ human rights.

https://www.neh.gov/files/imagecache/neh_large/news/images/reverby1.jpg

Susan Reverby,

19 posted on 08/27/2017 4:21:41 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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