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Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism
New York Times ^ | August 12, 2017 | Kristen R. Ghodsee

Posted on 08/13/2017 9:03:30 AM PDT by EdnaMode

When Americans think of Communism in Eastern Europe, they imagine travel restrictions, bleak landscapes of gray concrete, miserable men and women languishing in long lines to shop in empty markets and security services snooping on the private lives of citizens. While much of this was true, our collective stereotype of Communist life does not tell the whole story.

Some might remember that Eastern bloc women enjoyed many rights and privileges unknown in liberal democracies at the time, including major state investments in their education and training, their full incorporation into the labor force, generous maternity leave allowances and guaranteed free child care. But there’s one advantage that has received little attention: Women under Communism enjoyed more sexual pleasure.

A comparative sociological study of East and West Germans conducted after reunification in 1990 found that Eastern women had twice as many orgasms as Western women. Researchers marveled at this disparity in reported sexual satisfaction, especially since East German women suffered from the notorious double burden of formal employment and housework. In contrast, postwar West German women had stayed home and enjoyed all the labor-saving devices produced by the roaring capitalist economy. But they had less sex, and less satisfying sex, than women who had to line up for toilet paper.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: antifamily; fakenews; liberalism; liberals; marxism; newyorkslimes; smokybackroom; socialism
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To: Bringbackthedraft

It could be the potato soup and bread that I feed her?


21 posted on 08/13/2017 9:20:24 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Damn, the tag line disappeared again? Coursors!)
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To: EdnaMode; All
Yeah, “investigative journalism” and huge self-contradictions.
Communist women enjoyed a degree of self-sufficiency that few Western women could have imagined. Eastern bloc women did not need to marry, or have sex, for money. The socialist state met their basic needs and countries such as Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia and East Germany committed extra resources to support single mothers, divorcées and widows. …
The state spoon-feeding you your “basic needs” is not self-sufficiency. Paging Captain Obvious (who ain’t transgendering) . . .
22 posted on 08/13/2017 9:21:12 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: EdnaMode

Come and keep your comrades warm.

#GulagRape


23 posted on 08/13/2017 9:21:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal campaign contributions from the Chi-Coms and 'nobody' cared..)
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To: EdnaMode

Bite me!


24 posted on 08/13/2017 9:21:28 AM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

thank you Jerry Reed


25 posted on 08/13/2017 9:22:05 AM PDT by xp38
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To: EdnaMode

“This is an essay in the series Red Century, about the history and legacy of Communism 100 years after the Russian Revolution.”


26 posted on 08/13/2017 9:22:17 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: EdnaMode
Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

And then the article utterly fails to explain why women had better sex (supposedly) under socialism. It cites a study from 1961.

Gee, there's no way that a government that kept every every space program, military, and nuclear accident a state-secret would lie about this, would they? A country where being a sloppy alcoholic is the norm, 99% of them don't even know what a banana is, have only seen oranges and watermelons in magazines, and whose average lifespan was 51 (it's up to 55 now) is healthy as a horse and having all kinds of great sex, right? Sure, and I have a bridge to sell you.

27 posted on 08/13/2017 9:23:02 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: EdnaMode

Eastern women had twice as many orgasms as Western women. Researchers marveled at this disparity in reported sexual satisfaction, especially since East German women suffered from the notorious double burden of formal employment and housework.

Okay, ladies. No more fun for you. You need a job, housework and long lines at the grocery store. But don’t worry, your orgasms will be more frequent and stronger.


28 posted on 08/13/2017 9:23:16 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: EdnaMode

Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense! This young person who does not have a clue about what we all, not just women, have lost, especially the challenge as well as the beauty and the fun of the college years — if she could possibly think that life in any way was better behind the iron curtain than she knows nothing. Communism “liberated” young women to do such jobs as heavy construction, sewer work, etc., and then after working in such an exhausting job all day, she faced standing in line at the grocery store for hours (with its bare shelves) before she could go home to be wife and mother but that was okay, she could always get an abortion if it all was too much for her — even if she loved and wanted her unborn baby.


29 posted on 08/13/2017 9:25:58 AM PDT by erkelly
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To: OttawaFreeper

I remember seeing those she-males on TV. I was 11 years old and knew that they were roided up like a farm show bull.


30 posted on 08/13/2017 9:26:12 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: EdnaMode

I can remember, while taking a course in university on the Russian Revolution and the communist rule that followed, learning about how married people had to resort to speaking to each other under their bedsheets in very low whispers when it came to discussing their concerns and fears about what was going on at their workplaces and elsewhere in Russia during the Stalin years. This was done in order to avoid being heard by peeping toms and spies trying to listen in through neighbouring walls. I wonder what that did for peoples’ sex lives back then?


31 posted on 08/13/2017 9:26:45 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: ronniesgal

No joke. In the late 70s, I had 3 channels on the TV: NBC, CBS, and PBS. And I was living the life of Reilly compared to them. Victor Belenko, who flew his MiG-25 to Japan in 1976, said that a $1.50 breakfast in the worst part of St. Louis was far and above better than ANY meal he ever had in the USSR.


32 posted on 08/13/2017 9:28:41 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: EdnaMode

What else was there to do if you’re not waiting in line for toilet paper?


33 posted on 08/13/2017 9:31:16 AM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: lodi90

The point they are trying to make is that women have better sex when the Government is their Husband. As opposed to being “tethered” to an actual husband.

The irony here is that marriage is usually better for women than for men. This is especially obvious after both turn 30.


34 posted on 08/13/2017 9:34:56 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Olog-hai

What kind of orgasms did she have in Ghana? I can’t believe such an article in a mainstream newspaper, as opposed to pornographic magazines or Cosmopolitan.


35 posted on 08/13/2017 9:36:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: EdnaMode
their full incorporation into the labor force

I ran that through my NYT to English translator, it came back as:

Their forced incorporation into The State's labor force.

36 posted on 08/13/2017 9:38:41 AM PDT by null and void (You can only see into the future as far as you can see into your past.)
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To: EdnaMode

This gives keen insight into why the left promotes every kind of sexual depravity. They would clamp down on every kind of freedom, but as long as one is sexually “liberated” no one will even notice that they have no freedom.

I would question the basic premise of this article, though.

The primary form of birth control for Soviet women was abortion, without anesthetic. Some women had as many as 25 abortions, although I would think that few would remain fertile beyond more than a handful of abortions, and that those having 25 abortions are outliers. I would think that the prospect of having to use abortion as the only means of birth control would put off many women from sex.


37 posted on 08/13/2017 9:43:09 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: EdnaMode
East German women suffered from the notorious double burden of formal employment and housework.

Okay. So when did they have time for sex?

38 posted on 08/13/2017 9:43:42 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: EdnaMode

Because it was the ONLY form of pleasure one could have in totalitarian thug regimes. But don’t expect commie thug sympathizers (the NY Times) to admit that. ...or even comprehend it.


39 posted on 08/13/2017 9:45:38 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Olog-hai
Communist women enjoyed a degree of self-sufficiency that few Western women could have imagined.

Oh sure, they were all kinds of self-sufficient. By "self-sufficient", they mean that their women were making clothes from an old moldy tarp found out in the forest, feeding their kids acorns because the food rations were so thin, and walking a mile each way with a 5-gallon bucket to get water that smells like diesel fuel. Or how about taking an old toothbrush, gouging a slot in it, inserting a razor blade, and melting the plastic around it with a match because a kitchen knife is a luxury that only Politburo members can get? These people had to use prison-ingenuity just to survive a standard of living that your average resident of India would find appalling. There's all kinds of self-sufficiency going on, isn't Mother Russia grand?

40 posted on 08/13/2017 9:46:53 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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