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For your consideration,another state, South Carolina, appears to be ready to join the second chance movement to help non violent felons find employment.
1 posted on 08/04/2017 3:36:50 PM PDT by buckalfa
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Fortunately a lot of felons self identify themselves as ex-cons via their tattoos.

I think if I thought I would make crime my career, the last thing I would get is a tattoo.

Actually if I thought I would make crime my career I would become a politician.


2 posted on 08/04/2017 3:44:41 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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Pass a law allowing them to expunge hate crimes and this insanity will stop.


3 posted on 08/04/2017 3:49:20 PM PDT by Brilliant
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if you choose to break the law there are consequences that you have to live with.


4 posted on 08/04/2017 3:53:48 PM PDT by PCPOET7
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I thought it was up to a business whether they wanted to hire an ex felon. If the government gets involved, then records can be expunged, and for some positions the employers would need to know the criminal background, then make their own decision.


5 posted on 08/04/2017 4:04:31 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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In times before access to databases, people relied upon references. To be considered, you had to get somebody I trusted to vouch for you. If this passes, we would be going back to that.


6 posted on 08/04/2017 4:12:08 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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I rented a house to two non-violent former felons. They are the worst renters I have ever had and that is impressive.

I didn’t actually know they were former felons until I thought that maybe they had been arrested, as I couldn’t find them at home. I put their names into google with the word arrested. They were thieves, drug users; a man and wife team with two kids. They seem to have lots of cash, but never pay rent unless I go over and give them a three day notice. Ten months of three day notices. There is always brand new stuff around the place; some of it left outside in the rain. The problem appears to be in their heads. For example, I went over to collect the rent, which was fifteen days late. They were running the air conditioning with a few windows open and telling me all about their difficulties. (They had all new porch furniture.) Once, they paid part of the rent by having me follow them to a store where they cashed in eight $20 lottery tickets. How many of those tickets did they buy to get eight that paid off a total of about ninety bucks? Nothing they do makes sense.

What I’ve noticed about the felons I’ve dealt with over the years is they make bad decisions; driving without a license, for example, and, they have poor impulse control. Virtually all of them smoked. If I had my choice I would never again hire or rent to a former felon. (I do realize people make mistakes and they can later be good people. If I’ve met those people I never knew about it. I always found out about the bad ones the hard way.)


7 posted on 08/04/2017 4:29:02 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Too darned bad. If you want a good job don’t get arrested


8 posted on 08/04/2017 4:29:13 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Most people are not aware of it but California has already done this and on the QT.

I became aware of it when some CA 2A discussion boards noted a quiet change to "disqualifying convictions" that stop you from buying a gun in CA. CA uses it's own system (that queries the Fed instant check) but CA has more disqualifiers than Feds.

So all of a sudden all these misdemeanors show as disqualifying. Investigation turned up that CA was allowing convicted felons to reduce felonies to misdemeanors (as the precursor to eventual expungement) and did not want them being able to buy guns. How that works in the long run is beyond me. Of course under Governor-to-be Any Twosome Newsome, guns will be banned completely so I guess that solves their conundrum.

9 posted on 08/04/2017 4:31:55 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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sometimes cops & prosecutors trick kids into bad plea agreements on trumped up charges by telling them if only they take the agreement, their parents &/or employers never will find out if they just pay a small fine....only to find they have been charged with a felony which causes them to lose their job & become unemployable.
I know a young man who at 19 years old fell for such an agreement & lost a good job & couldn’t find a new one for years until a big employer took a chance on him. Two years later, he was named “employee of the year” out of hundreds of employees & the company is benefitting by his expertise & genius in computers with some college education,too. NOBODY works harder than he does or has a better attitude and he will soon become a manager before he’s done. He doesn’t have ANY tattoos.
His crime? In a state which has basically de-criminalized marijuana possession, he got caught with a small amount of marijuana he was smoking late one night on the way home from work. He was carrying a laptop computer which the arresting cops told him “must be stolen” but was NOT stolen. and he had a knife on his belt which he used for protection coming home late at night walking in a bad neighborhood....in a state in which it’s now legal to carry a concealed GUN without a permit! He was charged with carrying a “burglary tool” (the knife”) which also was called a “concealed weapon”...though it wasn’t really concealed but was semi concealed...which is a felony. So basically a kid coming home from work late at night was tricked into possessing a criminal record which made him look like a burglar to employers...until one at least heard his side of the story.


10 posted on 08/04/2017 4:51:49 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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since farting cross-eyed is a felony in some states in this increasingly repressive “republic.” I think this is a great idea.

Seriously. One cannot become a nurses aide here if one has a felony or a misdemeanor that was pleaded down from a felony charge.

Know one state licensed person who was in a bar when a fight broke out, everyone in the bar was arrested. Took this solid citizen 10K in legal fees to get the charges erased, worth every penny since the individual would have lost livelihood without the necessary state license.

We are creating our own criminal class by our overly punitive charges.


12 posted on 08/04/2017 6:37:56 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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My store took a chance on a low level drug dealer who turned out to have a very bad temper..He ended up killing a woman in her home,then driving to a field and killing himself....No one knew he was a criminal until we read it in the paper..


14 posted on 08/04/2017 6:40:41 PM PDT by Hambone 1934
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Failed in Memphis.

My son waits on drug test and background, won’t hire if either come back bad, since it’s CC and cash business he can’t afford to hire petty thieves, you can’t reform them no more than you can the drug addict, a Meth user’s application goes straight to trash bin.


29 posted on 08/05/2017 5:53:03 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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Isn’t that the reason the Law has specific differences between Misdemeanors and Felonies?

Might as well make everything a Misdemeanor and poof, problem solved.

Meanwhile, Law Abiding Citizens can become Overnight Felons every time a new Law is passed. In CA it is a daily event.


32 posted on 08/05/2017 8:40:11 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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For people with criminal records, finding a job can be hard.

Should've thought about that before committing the crime.

38 posted on 08/05/2017 10:00:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Normally I am not a fan of government programs. But this maybe one case where I might go for it.

We certainly could use a lot of labor to rebuild infrastructure in this country, and perhaps we could provide a program for ex-cons to work on these projects to get a chance to rebuild their lives and reputation so they can be hirable down the road.

We could certainly use them to replace all of the illegal alien labor that hopefully Trump will eventually get rid of.


39 posted on 08/05/2017 10:04:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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