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To: RegulatorCountry
I’ve found that old-school IT types are very diehard in their dislike of Apple even in the face of there no longer being any appreciable functional divergence as far as software and network connectivity.

Look, I'll finally admit it right here. I despise Apple because it is the liberal socialist's choice. The invasive and surreptitious way they inculcated themselves into the young minds in elementary schools across the country. The "1984 Apple's First Macintosh Commercial", raging against "Big Brother" yet the Apple culture actually embracing every tenet of Big Brother Socialism. The bewildering idolatry for Steve Jobs.

But back to practicality, in over 30 years at Verizon Business, I worked with hundreds of PC's, a couple of OS2 platforms, some Linux/Unix systems for special platform access, but zero Apple products. Apples are for children, artists or dreamers with their heads in la-la land.

In 1982 I got a TI-99/4A and since then I have had at least seven PC's as they have gotten better and more powerful. When Windows first came out we had to boot up the PC to the DOS prompt and then load the .EXE file to launch Windows. My wife has an iPad which she stopped using when the novelty wore off. She has an iPhone but is envious of my Droid and will change to that in the next few weeks.

At the end of Kelly's Heroes, Oddball trades with the Germans for their Tiger Tank. Moriarty, tells Oddball he's crazy for making that trade! Oddball says, "it's a mother beautiful tank", and Moriarty replies "it's a piece of junk!" "The fuel system leaks all over the place, it's a piece of junk!" Then Oddball replies, "always with the negative waves, Moriarty." "Always with the negative waves." Apple is that Tiger Tank, all hype and no substance but seems cool to a crazy person.

45 posted on 07/17/2017 10:36:28 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister
Apple is that Tiger Tank, all hype and no substance but seems cool to a crazy person.

So much for not turning this into a flame war...

Higgmeister could not be more wrong.

IBM itself has many employees using Macs in the business environment. Just Google "IBM Macs" for any number of news stories that have been done on the subject.

I am a heterosexual, male, conservative business owner, who used to build Windows boxes for a living. When I started my own business, I decided I wanted to spend more time being productive and less time messing with computer issues, so I went Mac.

Through work I have contact with dozens if not hundreds of business owners on a constant basis. I would estimate Mac penetration into the business environment at about 20%.

The days of incompatible file formats and hardware are mostly over. Many programs you will use in a business environment have Mac counterparts. The hardware you are most likely to use - keyboards, mice, monitors, USB drives, etc. - generally will work on both platforms.

Apples are for children, artists or dreamers with their heads in la-la land.

I'll be sure to mention that to Rush Limbaugh and President Trump next time I see them...

53 posted on 07/17/2017 10:59:10 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: higgmeister

Guess I’m a crazy person because I’d much rather have the Tiger Tank, leaks and all with its 88mm gun that will blow a hole clean through a Sherman and catch it’s gasoline on fire in an instant as opposed to the Tiger’s diesel that is not nearly so ignition prone. They called Shermans Ronsons after the lighter. It took 5 or more dead Shermans to knock out a Tiger. I’m finding about the same ratio of dead PCs to a Mac.

So I’ll keep my “all hype and no substance” Mac and just keep working and creating without irritation from the Gates empire.


56 posted on 07/17/2017 11:11:46 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: higgmeister

Thank you for your textbook example of just the sort of irrational bias that I was referencing. Perfect.


68 posted on 07/17/2017 1:04:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: higgmeister; RegulatorCountry; jacquej
Look, I'll finally admit it right here. I despise Apple. . .

Well, gee, I'm glad you told us upfront. We'd never have guessed from your load of myths you proceed to dump in the rest of your post. The fact is that Microsoft has spent MORE money to push the Liberal agenda than Apple ever has. . . as has Bill Gates. And in the case of Gates, far more money than Steve Jobs.

Apples are for children, artists or dreamers with their heads in la-la land.

You claim to have worked with UNIX, but seem to be unaware that the best selling completely POSIX compliant and trademarked UNIX in the world is Apple OS X and now MacOS. . . a very powerful UNIX™. You also seem to be unaware that Apple Macs run far more software than any other computer, including your vaunted Windows computers. I have run my main Mac with NINE completely different Operating Systems running simultaneously. . . including four different iterations of Windows, two flavors of Linux, UNIX™ (the native OS), and two versions of OSX. Try that on a Windows PC.

So "Apples are for children, artists dreamers," eh? Which of those categories do these NASA engineers who planned, engineered and executed the landing of the Curiosity Rover on Mars fall under, higgmeister?


Curiosity Rover Control Room at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratories of California Institute of Technology

Incidentally, another view of that same room, shows that those engineers are running Mac OSX, not Windows of Linux. There are only two Window PC computers out of over 35 computers being used by these NASA engineers in that team. So much for your ignorant claims about Apple Macs being for children, artists, and dreamers. You just proved you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

Oh, you apparently don't know that IBM, one of the largest businesses in the world, is in the process of completing moving every single one of their employees over to using Apple computers. . . all 250,000 of them. They've discovered that it is far less expensive to support Apple gear than Windows PCs by a HUGE amount, and that the Total Cost of Ownership of the Apple computers is far less than the Windows PCs. There's another nail in the coffin of your claims.

77 posted on 07/17/2017 4:15:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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