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1 posted on 07/14/2017 1:20:58 PM PDT by WKTimpco
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What?

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2 posted on 07/14/2017 1:23:26 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Veni, vidi, Vomui- I came, I saw, I hurled.)
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Bicycling, swimming and photography.

All of which I enjoy doing at age 52 with my 7 year-old child.


4 posted on 07/14/2017 1:25:42 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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Me thinks yer over reacting


5 posted on 07/14/2017 1:25:55 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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Proper use of what kind of hearing protection? You need to make sure you have good ear plugs that are form fitted to your ears, not those useless foam things or off the shelf cheap ones. If you are really concerned use the form fitted ear plugs and wear the ear muff versions in addition.


6 posted on 07/14/2017 1:27:46 PM PDT by Dave911
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ear plugs and ear muffs, a silencer, practice with an air gun, go to an outdoor range and stay away from bubba and his S&W 50 cal.


9 posted on 07/14/2017 1:30:20 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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Get some good electronic shooting muffs. Walker game ears come to mind. Don’t use those muffs they rent you for $2 at the range.


13 posted on 07/14/2017 1:31:16 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Please advise on how you think I can minimize the decrease in my quality of life associated with giving up or restricting firearms shooting.

My quality of life would be GREATLY reduced. Your mileage may vary.

I have hearing loss, too. I was stupid as a kid and did not use any hearing protection at all. I learned better in my 20s (50 now) but the damage was cumulative, and permanent.

Buy suppressors. I hope soon they will simply be "gun mufflers" you can buy over the counter instead of registering them with the FedGov and waiting 12 - 18 months for approval.

14 posted on 07/14/2017 1:31:24 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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I saw a tinnitus specialist this past Tuesday. The various noises in my head a louder than people speak. She said hearing aids would not help me, and that I needed cochlear implants.


15 posted on 07/14/2017 1:33:41 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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SHOULD WE POST TO YOU IN ALL CAPS?


16 posted on 07/14/2017 1:34:15 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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I have tinnitus.

To much cranking to amp at our shows and other rock & punk shows.


17 posted on 07/14/2017 1:35:55 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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“Despite my proper use of hearing protection, I usually experience some temporary hearing changes after a couple of hours at the range. “

Seriously, this does not add up. You either are using cheap crap or your are wearing it wrong. Get better hearing protection or double up. Or both. In-ear foam or good muffs over top and you should not be having a problem. In-ear foam AND good muffs and you can’t possibly be getting hearing damage. Physics will not allow it.


21 posted on 07/14/2017 1:37:41 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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FROM: Letter/Editor American Family Physician, March 15, 2001

to the editor: With regard to Dr. Rabino-witz’s fine article1 on noise-induced hearing loss, I wanted to add a telltale sign of hearing damage that occurs in shooters of shoulder firearms.

Shooters, as do most persons exposed to high sound levels, have a characteristic “notch” of greatest hearing loss at 4,000 or 6,000 Hz; however, shooters of shoulder arms have an asymmetric hearing loss with a greater deficit in the ear opposite the shoulder from which the gun is fired. Because most people are right-handed and fire from the right shoulder, the majority of shoulder firearm shooters show a deeper “4,000 Hz notch” in the left ear. This may seem counter intuitive, but the ipsilateral ear is somewhat protected by the angle of the head when shooting. The contralateral ear is more exposed to the sound of the muzzle blast.

Counseling hunters presents a considerable challenge. As Dr. Rabinowitz1 points out, the best way to prevent hearing damage is avoiding high-level sounds or using some barrier-like protection (plugs or muffs). Hunters are averse to wearing ear protection, claiming that they need to hear the movement of game they are hunting. I advise them to cover their ears when another person is shooting, to wear ear protection when the success of hunting depends more on vision than on hearing (watching for ducks to fly in rather than listening for the rustling of deer), not to fire unnecessarily and to wear ear protection during practice or sighting in.

I tell hunters that the choice is theirs: either practice hearing conservation or lose more hearing. I point out that communication difficulty will increase, social enjoyment and domestic tranquility will decrease, tinnitus may begin or worsen, and that a hearing aid may become necessary, although hearing aids are less successful with the notch patterns of noise-induced hearing loss than with most other patterns. I wonder if people would take the same risk with their vision?

JAMES E. PECK, PH.D., CCC-A

University of Mississippi Medical Center

2500 N. State St.

Jackson, MS 39216-4506
REFERENCE

1. Rabinowitz PM. Noise-induced hearing loss. Am Fam Physician. 2000;61:2749–56.

in reply: I appreciate Dr. Peck’s comments regarding the problem of recreational firearm use and noise-induced hearing loss. Results from a recent study1 revealed an increased risk of marked high-frequency hearing loss among persons who had used recreational firearms. In addition to Dr. Peck’s practical suggestions for counseling hunters about the use of hearing protection, physicians discussing the prevention of hearing loss with hunters should be aware of the existence of devices offering “level–dependent hearing protection.”2 These devices can permit hearing of low-intensity sounds such as speech or animal movement, while attenuating louder sounds such as gunfire. These devices may be appropriate for use in certain hunting or shooting situations.2

PETER RABINOWITZ

Yale University

Occupational and Environmental Medicine Program

135 College St.,

New Haven, CT 06510-2483
REFERENCES

1. Nondahl DM, Cruickshanks KJ, Wiley TL, Klein R, Klein BE, Tweed TS. Recreational firearm use and hearing loss. Arch Fam Med. 2000;9:352–7. . .

http://www.aafp.org/afp/2001/0315/p1053.html


22 posted on 07/14/2017 1:38:32 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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Ear plugs and electronic muffs.

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23 posted on 07/14/2017 1:39:30 PM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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A Mesa Boogie amplifier turned up to 10 will do that too.


24 posted on 07/14/2017 1:40:07 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Climate Change: The Imminent Crisis That Never Arrives and the gravy train that never ends.)
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By the way. do not use the inside the ear phones that come with a lot of electronic equipment. Sound engineers tell me that the ear is designed to be used in its entirety not just the central channel. It will knock off the top your ability in the high range.

I have some hearing problem and I also wear my shooting earmuffs when I cut and trim the grass, use the chain saw and any tool that makes loud noises. I spent 35 years in mfg and you tell from my ears.


26 posted on 07/14/2017 1:43:32 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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I have hearing loss in my left ear of 50%, and my right ear 25%. Concerts, hunting and uncle Sam’s boys club contributed to the condition.

Oh, and genetics too.

You will adapt and overcome.

5.56mm


27 posted on 07/14/2017 1:44:27 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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My hearing loss is now pretty bad. If a single person is talking to me, I don’t have a problem. But if more than one person is talking to me at once, or someone is talking to me at the same time as the TV is playing, all I hear is noise.

I call it “Chinese restaurant syndrome.” I now refuse to go with my wife to dinners/parties at Chinese restaurants because it is always so noisy I can’t hear anything but noise and have to try to read lips all evening.


28 posted on 07/14/2017 1:46:07 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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When at the range, it doesn't matter if I'm shooting .22LR, .308 Winchester, or anything in between, I always ALWAYS double up on my hearing protection. That means I put in memory foam earplugs, then I put on over the ear earmuffs.

The over the ear earmuffs I use are electronic amplified earmuffs (Howard Leight Impact Sport) so I can hear range commands, I can carry on conversations in a normal voice with my spouse (who is similarly outfitted,) yet my loudest firearm, a Smith & Wesson J-Frame snubbie firing .38+P rounds, is very quiet. I have absolutely no ringing or 'temporary' hearing loss afterwards.

For hunting, I just wear the Howard Leight Impact Sport electronic muffs. With the volume all the way up, my hearing is *better* than normal, yet a shot from my .308 or .30-30 is attenuated. I would NOT want to do an all day range session this way, but the occasional shot while hunting is fine.

What I will never do is shoot without ear protection, either at the range or while hunting.

32 posted on 07/14/2017 1:55:33 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Huh?

Well I got severe hearing loss from working around Jet engines all my life.. It’s so bad on the high ends I can’t hear my Fire alarms when they go off.. I do Wear hearing aids however the loss is getting worst. Most times I can’t understand spoken words i have to read lips too..


35 posted on 07/14/2017 1:59:26 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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Muffs with 30+ NR will suffice for outdoor use.

Muffs AND ear plugs at indoor ranges

36 posted on 07/14/2017 2:00:47 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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