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To: BJ1

Yes, the current system is ‘whacked’. It’s a difficult transition that we’re going through, and there have been a lot of casualties.

Unfortunately we have a system now - largely due to political Feminism and the economics of that - that simply doesn’t allow for a one-income family for most people anymore. In most families, the woman is also working outside of the home. Of course she expects the man to help out with the housekeeping and childcare, when she comes home everyday just as tired as the man is.

It’s especially difficult for women in the workplace, because at home they want to be the feminine nurturer - but then they have to wake up in the morning, go out into the world, and fight tooth-and-nail like a man, in the competitive workplace!

Do you know how difficult and exhausting it is to be constantly switching back-and-forth between those modes?

Most women that I’ve known who have husbands, homes, kids, would much rather be at home full-time; but they just can’t. And a lot of men these days DO expect the woman to bring in some money.

We’ve made a mess for ourselves; but there are ways out of it for *Individuals*.

You aren’t tied to what the world is doing, or the way the ‘world’ decides things. Make up your mind what you want, despite the sacrifices that it may entail. Have it clear in your mind, believe in it, see it in your mind, EXPECT it, and have faith.

(This won’t work, if you can’t DECIDE, give up bitterness, and have Faith.)


71 posted on 07/11/2017 6:35:15 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

First I want you to know I’m not making this personal in any way. I made a comment to you that marriage is a farce, as it can be dissolved at the whim of either spouse. But I also pointed out that men do a cost benefit analysis to decide if something makes sense for them. And imho marriage is riskier and the benefits are worse. Thus MGTOW is here and likely to grow.

Here is part of your reply to that: “It’s especially difficult for women in the workplace, because at home they want to be the feminine nurturer - but then they have to wake up in the morning, go out into the world, and fight tooth-and-nail like a man, in the competitive workplace!

Do you know how difficult and exhausting it is to be constantly switching back-and-forth between those modes?”

Your reply is typical of a woman. To turn the argument around back to the woman’s point of view. And that is why MGTOW isn’t going away. Women are either incapable of showing men genuine sympathy or just don’t think it’s as important as what is in the best interest of women. I mean, that’s what it seems like to me when I get replies like yours. Men don’t have to put up with a woman arguing with them, competing with them and shaming them for not being the man that they expect. They can be single and use Tinder when they want female companionship. Sinful sure, but it is what it is.

Mothers have an equal amount of sons as daughters. You would think they would want to abolish unfair treatment of men in society. But alas, it usually ends up like your response. Frankly I’m tired of hearing about women’s struggles. Men have been working all along and if we complain, we get called names and are told to man up. Since women fought to enter the workplace, I suggest women, as a gender, woman up. And while I’m ranting, why don’t they want to change laws that are unfair to their sons? Phyllis Schaffley mobilized a ton of women to oppose the ERA amendment. She didn’t want women to be drafted. No significant movement from mothers exist to right the wrongs that have been done to their sons. Yet I’m sure we all know mothers who have limited access to their grandchildren due to a bitter divorce and acrimony from the former daughter in law.


79 posted on 07/11/2017 6:58:50 PM PDT by BJ1
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