Posted on 07/11/2017 2:54:35 PM PDT by righttackle44
Earlier today, here at Townhall and on Fox News, I said that more information needed to be gathered before anyone should declare the Donald Trump, Jr. story a bombshell or a dud. First and foremost, I argued, it would be very helpful to see the actual emails that preceded the now-infamous June meeting, which the New York Times claimed would demonstrate that the president's son was well aware of the alleged source and nature of the promised anti-Clinton information (which never materialized) in advance. The Times story was rooted in unnamed sources who characterized, but apparently did not produced, the messages in question. In order to determine if the documents were being mischaracterized, we should see them, I said. About an hour later, Donald Trump, Jr. tweeted the full four-page exchange, which Cortney relayed here. Trump Jr. cast his tweets as efforts at full transparency, but one can't help but wonder if there was another pressing motive at play: He preempted the Times, which had the chain and was about to run with it. In any case, the content of these emails was, in my case, literally jaw-dropping. Trump Jr's associate alerted him to the supposed existence of highly sensitive information regarding wrongdoing tied to Mrs. Clinton, telling him that it would be furnished by a "Russian government attorney" who was representing "Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump" (who now claims she wasn't tied to the Kremlin). To which Trump Jr. replied, "if it's what you say I love it." This couldn't be much clearer: And these shifts look really bad, especially when you read the quote from March in which Trump Jr. flatly denies meeting with any Russian nationals in arranged meetings: . . .
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The whole tired media scam has run its course.
never Trumper.
And I can show you links from lawyers that say what he did is a crime..but I refuse to get involved with your round robin posts
I dont have an opinion. I know lawyers have different opinions on this. Alan D is not the final word
These emails show that Donald Trump Jnr thought this lawyer was a foreign national with valuable material about the Clinton campaign.
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Clearly the law is referring to money or something similar to money, not information about Hillary doing dirty deals with the Russians.
Well duh, they have been committing crimes, real crimes, all over the place for decades and nobody cares.
Are you just pretending ignorance?
All information has value. Using that defintion of "valuable," any receipt of information, by a campaign, from a foreign entity, is illegal.
-- His attempting to arrange a meeting with her to obtain this material, that's solicitation. --
You have inverted the legal meaning of solicitation, and applied it to the wrong party. It was the other side that solicited the meeting, and offered that it had dirt on Hillary to obtain the meeting.
Based on your post, I assume you are a troll, and not worthy of engaging serious discussion, so I lay this out for others.
Nonsense. First of all, the Hillary campaign did do such things in the course of trying to gather opposition research, and they did have contact with government assets of countries like the Ukraine.
And nobody has ever shown any propensity to be very picky about what the source of such research might be, foriegn government or otherwise.
It's "routine" politics, which is never very pretty, and what you're doing is apparently falling for the phony Media narrative that this is something out of the ordinary.
In any event, this is the President's son, not the President himself. Others on this board have been predicting that the Media would be going after more Trump family and associates. Why? Because they have nothing with which to go after the President himself.
The optics of this incident notwithstanding, this by itself is nothing which subjects the President to any legal liability, and the political liability will remain rather minimal, unless something much more serious comes to light.
So, once again, this particular incident is, at its core, a nothingburger which will accomplish nothing other than some minor embarrassment.
And, indeed, it might very well turnout that this was all a setup by the Deep State, Obama, and Democrats.
This is nothing more than a carefully timed leak which serves to prolong an ongoing smear campaign, underneath which nothing of substance will ever emerge. Because if there were any information that was seriously damaging to the President himself—not his family—we would have heard about it a long time ago.
This is simply another petty attempt to inflict whatever damage possible on Donald Trump, Jr., since these deep state pigs have nothing of substance to use against the President himself.
Any blind man with a cane can see this Deep State Swamp Stunt precisely for what it is, and as such, upon thoughtful review, I'm unimpressed...
What the Russians really seek is chaos within a paralyzed US Gov't, and now they're getting it thanks to the Resistard Donkeys, the RINO b@$t@rds, and the seditious Enemedia.
Just keep on hallucinating.
Too bad he doesn’t know anyone who could pardon him.
“Not good.”
What’s not good?
A private American citizen met with a private Russian citizen and ate dinner.
Don’t tell me and let me guess: The Nazi pukes at the NYT consider that collusion and illegal; thus, it’s an impeachable offense against Trump.
Politico claiming manafort is disavowing by saying he didnt read the whole email chain
Kushner has already thrown Jr under the bus
The problem they have with all of this is that they dont know what tapes etc may be out there of all the players by different countries who were spying..and people who may have been recording themselves for protection
At this point Jr should be considering himself an adverse party to kushner. Hopefully mob lawyer he just hired gets that point across.
‘And I can show you links from lawyers that say what he did is a crime’
Let me guess. One of the lawyer’s names is Hillary Clinton.
The other lawyer’s name is Maxine Waters. Granted, she has no degree. But she’s an expert on inpeachment, which is nearly as good.
No, the part of the code that says “or other thing of value” extends the definition well beyond money - goods, services, intel. The information he thought he could get was clearly of value, or else why try and meet the person?
What he said in the emails: ‘if it’s what you say I love it’ is clearly indicative of value.
‘The problem they have with all of this is that they dont know what tapes etc may be out there of all the players by different countries who were spying..and people who may have been recording themselves for protection’
Why do you assume this is a problem? You just assume they broke the law??? Otherwise, not a problem.
didn’t the Clinton campaign collude with someone who was colluding with Russians to produce the “Russian Dossier” on Trump?
If Trump had the chance to expose some dirt on Hillary Clinton that might influence voters, wouldn’t he be obligated to expose it?
Wouldn’t the voters deserve to know the truth?
Who cares who the source is?
That doesn’t sound like colluding, that sounds like campaigning.
I hear that if they impeach Donald Trump Jr., he is replaced with Tiffany.
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If anyone really cares about seeing the legal analysis on this they can Google it. Opinions vary from legal professionals. Some ..who said no crime before emails..have now changed their mind after emails . People who have acted as special council say its a crime. Others say not.
I am not interested in a round robin of posts with my stalker
I am interested to see what turley says after the emails.
Very true.
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