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Schumer opposes Trump plan to privatize air traffic control
Associated Press ^ | Jun 11, 2017 7:24 AM EDT

Posted on 06/11/2017 8:12:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Sen. Charles Schumer says President Donald Trump’s plan to privatize the nation’s air traffic control system could mean higher costs for consumers.

The New York Democrat and Senate minority leader said Sunday that the plan Trump announced on June 5 would give airlines too much control over costs.

He also said that during any national security emergency, privatization could hamper communication between air traffic controllers and the Department of Defense. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: airtrafficcontrol; atc; schumer; trump
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To: Olog-hai
He also said that during any national security emergency, privatization could hamper communication between air traffic controllers and the Department of Defense

Why?

41 posted on 06/11/2017 9:51:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Olog-hai

I use to drive a taxi in New York city and stopped (thank God) around 10 years ago. One time I drove an air traffic controller to LaGuardia airport and he told me they were still using equipment from the 1960s, in other words, while you are up there flying around in a jet, you life is literally dependent on machines that are 40 years old, well now it’s 50 years old because I never read anything about them being replaced. I have an old record player from the 1960s, very simple design and it doesn’t work, and that’s just a record player and they are using radar and God knows what else to land your plane. But hey, Schmucky Shoomer doesn’t want them improved, no doubt because it’s racist or some other psychotic reason made up by lunatics like him.


42 posted on 06/11/2017 9:53:49 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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To: Olog-hai

I guess I’ll let others decide if there is a practical way we can have 10 roadways competing against each other between New York and Chicago, or 10 airlines competing against each other serving those cities. I’ve only seen competition among airlines...never among highways, but maybe there’s some way to have highways compete...


43 posted on 06/11/2017 10:06:50 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Olog-hai

Of course Schumer opposes it; if Trump proposed anything, Schumer would oppose it. But Trump has talked to his pilots, and he now knows what they know: the reason our air traffic control system is so antiquated is because it is government-controlled. A private company could modernize it and make it far better than it is today, and reduce accidents even more.


44 posted on 06/11/2017 10:10:01 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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To: Olog-hai

And in other news, scientists report the sun may rise in the east and set in the west, and that ice is cold.


45 posted on 06/11/2017 10:19:05 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: Olog-hai

Who cares what Chuckwad thinks or sez.


46 posted on 06/11/2017 10:56:38 AM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: Olog-hai
"The New York Democrat and Senate minority leader said Sunday that the plan Trump announced on June 5 would give airlines too much control over costs."

And there it is. Only the (socialist) government should be allowed to control costs.

47 posted on 06/11/2017 11:18:50 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: wardamneagle

It’s at least a good thing to keep abreast of the latest talking points he was given. I don’t presume he actually thinks.


48 posted on 06/11/2017 11:21:45 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Government paycheck recipients vote Rat and tend to donate to Rats.So of course Chuckie is gonna oppose it.
49 posted on 06/11/2017 11:59:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Olog-hai

Schumer is like a dog who barks at his own barks a result of in breeding.


50 posted on 06/11/2017 2:30:17 PM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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Haha......a democrat thinks? LOL


51 posted on 06/11/2017 3:43:43 PM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: wardamneagle

Exactly.

Those ugly reading glasses aren’t for nothing.


52 posted on 06/11/2017 3:59:22 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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“FWIW, I spoke w/ one of my Gen-Av buds this past week who was for it since he knows of some privatized towers, and he hears any issues of hardware, software,and systems such as ILS, if they have a failure it is fixed right away vs months of waiting for procurement paperwork to get done.”

There is inaccurate information in this statement. Yes, at some airports the towers are private, but the navigation facilities are not private. They are part of the overall air navigation system. The navigation system is a separate entity from air traffic control.

The FAA maintains a huge depot at the Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center in Oklahoma City to replace navaids and their components. The statement that it takes a long time to fix a federal navaid is incorrect. The exception is Non-Directonal Beacons which are obsolete and are not being maintained.


53 posted on 06/11/2017 4:44:34 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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CFIII...

Thanks for the clarification, can you tell I am rusty and need some dual :-).....

54 posted on 06/12/2017 2:36:09 AM PDT by taildragger (Do you hear the people singing? The Song of Angry Men!....)
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To: Olog-hai; All
Thank you for referencing that article Olog-hai. As usual, please note that the following critique is direct at Sen. Schumer and not at you.

With all due respect to Sen. Schumer, he’s once again proving himself to be an excellent example why the ill-conceived 17th Amendment should never have been ratified imo, misguided state lawmakers foolishly giving up the voices of the state legislatures in Congress when they ratified that amendment.

More specifically, I wouldn’t be surprised if Schumer, probably like most other low-information citizens, thinks that everything that the constitutionally limited power feds do these days is “constitutional.” This is likely because most citizens have grown up with the unconstitutionally big federal government and probably think that everything that the feds do is constitutional.

That being said, I hope that patriots are developing the habit of checking every law, regulation and action of the feds against the fed’s constitutionally enumerated powers, Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers a good place to start.

In the case of aviation, while federal oversight of daily commercial aviation in the USA is arguably a good idea, especially where suppressing terrorism is concerned, it remains that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the unconstitutionally big feds the specific power to stick their big noses into any aspect of commercial aviation imo.

In fact, note that while it can be argued that commercial airlines conduct business over state lines and are therefore under the regulatory control of Congress through the Commerce Clause (1.8.3), please consider the following.

Not only did a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices clarify that contracts are not commerce, contracts therefore outside the scope of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers, but airline tickets, and the legal basis of other types of commercial travel, are evidently regarded as contracts, referred to as contract of carriage.

Corrections, insights welcome.

When the states quit sitting on their hands and repeal the 17th Amendment, the repeal amendment should include a provision which does the following. The provision should require the courts to presume the federal government guilty of trying to unconstitutionally expand its powers when the feds cannot reasonably justify any legislation, regulation or action with any of its constitutionally enumerated powers.

"In every event, I would rather construe so narrowly as to oblige the nation to amend, and thus declare what powers they would agree to yield, than too broadly, and indeed, so broadly as to enable the executive and the Senate to do things which the Constitution forbids." --Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.

Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!

Remember in November ’18 !

Since Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.

Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.

In fact, if Justice Gorsuch turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.

Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.

While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably haven’t been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed below.


55 posted on 06/12/2017 1:07:46 PM PDT by Amendment10
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