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SPY-PHONE Samsung’s ‘peeping Tom’ smartphones can listen and watch what you do (trunc.)
The Sun (UK) ^ | June 8, 2017 | By Margi Murphy

Posted on 06/09/2017 12:09:36 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker

Reason 316 why I’m glad to not have a cell phone.


21 posted on 06/09/2017 6:43:45 AM PDT by upchuck (Liberals: angry toddlers banging their spoons on the trays of their high-chairs at every opportunity)
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To: Red Badger; MayflowerMadam

Or have a dedicated empty yellow cartridge.

One that was nearly empty, but has had the remaining ink removed (soaked out onto a damp blotter) so the chip thinks it still has ink...


22 posted on 06/09/2017 6:47:46 AM PDT by null and void ( The Flat Earth Society claims they have members all around the globe!)
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To: Reddy

Twice I’ve had phone calls from companies right after visiting their homepage. We have one of those wireless plug in the wall devices for regular home phones.


23 posted on 06/09/2017 6:50:07 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

Google sees everything if you use their g-mail, Chrome, or smart apps on DROID. Search engine too.

If ads are the worst they do, it might be worth it.

If they track sites and comments, (like this) , that would constitute invasion of privacy for sure.


24 posted on 06/09/2017 7:06:47 AM PDT by Huebolt (Democraps need a diagnosis more than an explanation. Isn't there a pill?)
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To: bgill

Google sees everything if you use their g-mail, Chrome, or smart apps on DROID. Search engine too.

If ads are the worst they do, it might be worth it.

If they track sites and comments, (like this) , that would constitute invasion of privacy for sure.


25 posted on 06/09/2017 7:06:56 AM PDT by Huebolt (Democraps need a diagnosis more than an explanation. Isn't there a pill?)
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To: null and void

Hmmm


26 posted on 06/09/2017 7:36:55 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Swordmaker

Why pick on Samsung? All smart phones have this capability. This was proven in court years ago in a mobster case that the FBI had this capability. They reluctantly gave testimony to this effect under judges orders.


27 posted on 06/09/2017 7:37:32 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Operation Covfefe is now in effect.)
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To: Swordmaker

So, re: listening Samsung phones...what happens if you sit with phone next to a talk radio show?


28 posted on 06/09/2017 7:38:05 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: Swordmaker

Just don’t do anything wrong and you will have nothing to worry about!

Signed, NSA

lol


29 posted on 06/09/2017 7:42:51 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: null and void

Hmmm... I like the way you think! Always more than one way to skin a cat. (Just a saying; I love cats and never have skinned one.)


30 posted on 06/09/2017 7:50:29 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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To: MayflowerMadam

If ( yellow_ink <= Low ) {
identification_method = greyscale;
}
else {
identification_method = yellow;
}

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography


31 posted on 06/09/2017 8:40:07 AM PDT by lurked_for_a_decade (Imagination is more important than knowledge! ( e_uid == 0 ) != ( e_uid = 0 ). I Read kernel code.)
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To: BipolarBob

In America, Television Watches You.


32 posted on 06/09/2017 8:42:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BipolarBob
Why pick on Samsung? All smart phones have this capability. This was proven in court years ago in a mobster case that the FBI had this capability. They reluctantly gave testimony to this effect under judges orders.

No, all smartphones don't have this capability. The iPhone is not designed to monitor the users. Apple specifically prohibits such monitoring and says so in their user agreements. They are NOT designed to be triggered by "beacons" to send back data to advertisers and trigger advertising to the phone. They are not designed to take data from the phone and send it to anyone. PRIVACY is the primary watchword for Apple for its customers. . . so much so that Apple itself can not get into an iPhone without the user's passcode. The FBI had to pay a third-party Company over $1 million to get into a three year old iPhone 5c owned by the employer of one of the San Bernardino Terrorists after failing six-months in trying themselves to get into it. The iPhone 5c is far less secure than every iPhone model that was released after it.

Now we learn that Samsung itself is listening in on the activities of everyone of their customers? And that they are selling that capability to their partners? That's not any kind of privacy at all for their customers. To add insult to their customers on top that Samsung made their phones so that the ability to trigger that can be a "sound" signal sent from their television!

We already learned that Samsung TVs with voice command were always listening, even when turned off, sending what they heard back to Samsung's servers. Big Korean Cousin. They had no "Trigger Phrase" to turn on the listening mode. They were just always listening 24/7 to people who owned Samsung Smart TVs.

33 posted on 06/09/2017 9:59:19 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

1984 was a warning, not a plan of action.


34 posted on 06/09/2017 10:28:08 AM PDT by wastedyears (Prophecy of sky Gods, the sun and moon)
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To: protest1; RushIsMyTeddyBear; metmom; CynicalBear; SkyPilot; tuffydoodle; tang-soo; righttackle44; ..
[The mark of the beast keeps getting closer.]

Yes, yes it does. It could have been done in the 1980's. Now, it will be a breeze to implement. There will be virtually no place to hide.

-------------------------

Revelation 13:11-18 King James Version (KJV)

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

35 posted on 06/09/2017 1:50:48 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: MayflowerMadam; Reddy
My sister and I have had those same scenarios you both mention - discussing something we would never actually buy or do, nor even look for, and then ads for it start popping up on her FB page. Another time she was standing in line for her coffee behind a man she had never met. They chatted a word or two about the weather or long coffee line or something, then each went their ways. Next time she opened her FB page, there is a picture of this guy as "Someone you may know" in her 'friend' list, and that actually scared her.

FB is inserted into everything anymore. Practically everything comes with FB pre-installed, or at least pre-supplied with an icon to install it. The 'icon' probably has just enough FB wormware in it to spy on us even if we don't 'install' the full FB app.

36 posted on 06/09/2017 5:08:43 PM PDT by pigsmith
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To: pigsmith

That is creepy. I don’t do Facebook so have that app disabled.

One day my friend and I went out for lunch. About an hour later a notification popped up asking me to rate that restaurant. HUH??? I called Verizon and learned I had to turn off some feature — a location or something in the Google Maps app.

I just ordered a more basic phone and will stick this smart phone in a drawer. Too much intrusion.


37 posted on 06/09/2017 6:19:53 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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To: pigsmith

WOW! Hadn’t heard about the “someone you may know” stranger popping up! Super scary. I will have to watch and see if that happens.

I am one step away from walking away from FB. But like you said, can we ever really be rid of it? I do know that a few weeks ago I hid my birthday (month and day) on FB but still got birthday greetings.


38 posted on 06/09/2017 7:38:49 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy; pigsmith

I’ve worked on some of this tech. It is truly amazing what some of the hardware and firmware can do.

The Bluetooth Low Energy (BTLE, or BLE) radio, also known as Bluetooth “smart”, comes, with variations, in both BT 4.0 and BT 5 devices.

Without getting into too much technical specification stuff, let me just tell you that the radios can tell when another is near. They use what’s called “edge” computing, which is one reason they call it “smart”. It can do lots of stuff on its own without having to ping any server, Facebook or otherwise.

The two phones in the coffee line recognized each other, and each phone took the information stored in its own Facebook app and communicated to the other one. If Facebook wanted to find that transaction, they probably could, but basically, it was two phones saying “hello” to one another. The Facebook “mothership” probably never paid attention to the users but uploaded the data and its associations - user numbers, location, coffee, time of day, etc. The man probably got her picture and info, as well. In other words, it’s all very automatic and impersonal, unless someone has an interest in tracking down the individual for something like an arrest - And if things work correctly, that would require a judge to get a warrant to look at the data. Of course, we are all worried about people who don’t care about that kind of stuff, and the people who know enough to hack things like that. With the proper knowhow, a hacker could go into Starbucks and collect all sorts of stuff.

BLE can be used for precise location, as well. If you Google “Pixie”, it will show you a set of Bluetooth beacons you can buy to stick on your stuff at home - purses, keys, even pets. You download an app for your phone, and you can tell within inches where you left your wallet, provided you put a Pixie in it, and provided you are within 70 to 100 yards. It will overlay information on your camera shot that sticks a visual indicator on the couch cushion under which you will find that wallet.

Malls and stores use these “beacons” as well, and will broadcast special sales to your phone as you near the store, and of course, notify corporate if you came in and looked around.

Again - most of this occurs on the “edge”, and generic stuff goes back to a server, but the IP address and anything else you’ve given permission to be used when you accept the app terms can be stored in the main database and sold to other companies that wish to purchase your interests.

Tech is like fire - a wonderful servant, but a harsh master.


39 posted on 06/12/2017 7:56:40 AM PDT by HeadOn (I've read the last chapter. We win.)
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