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To: BroJoeK
all you really need is just one fully researched, documented, peer-reviewed & published example of data irrefutably falsifying a theory and that theory gets demoted -- reduced in rank -- back to hypothesis.

Global warming is a hoax and that is provable but Consensus claims to be the authority.

Just like evolution there is no criticism allowed it is settled science. Show me a school college or university that allows anyone to teach against global warming or evolution, they don't exist. Both opinions bear more resemblance to religion than science.

One does not have to even let Creation enter into the argument to disprove what is taught about evolution in schools today is inherently flawed. Of course the whole fight is with God not evidence.

169 posted on 06/03/2017 7:15:59 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: itsahoot
itsahoot: "Global warming is a hoax and that is provable but Consensus claims to be the authority."

I would give AGW some credit as a partially falsifiable hypothesis, meaning we can measure actual temperatures and, if done honestly, compare them to the past and future projections.
That's how we know now that much of it is just wrong and some outright hoax.
That's the science, in a nutshell.

But politicians and Leftist activists are a much different matter.
They fold imperfect science into their Leftist agenda making it a matter of partisan loyalty to the point of near-religious fervor.
So, far from encouraging real scientific investigations, they seek to shut down debates in favor of more One World Big Government socialism.

By stark contrast, evolution theory has been around for over 150 years, studied & worked-on by many thousands of scientists & scholars who had no Leftist agenda to push.
As a scientific theory it's confirmed daily by workers in many related fields (i.e., geology, medicine), so it's on solid ground.

itsahoot: "Just like evolution there is no criticism allowed it is settled science.
Show me a school college or university that allows anyone to teach against global warming or evolution, they don't exist.
Both opinions bear more resemblance to religion than science. "

I "get" that, but you're talking about public school children here who need to learn science in science classes and should be taught their religion in churches, by their families' pastors.
Even you don't want government employee union teachers telling your children what their religion teaches.
And really, that's the crux of it.
Your children should learn their religion in your church, and if you're too lazy to take them, then don't blame your government school for not teaching your religion.

Of course, many people home-school or use private religious schools, and for them, this is not an issue at all, ever.
Those teachers can teach whatever you want them to, including that evolution theory is just "fake science".

But not in public schools.

itsahoot: "One does not have to even let Creation enter into the argument to disprove what is taught about evolution in schools today is inherently flawed.
Of course the whole fight is with God not evidence."

But in fact, evolution theory is only "inherently flawed" if you reject science's basic premises & assumptions.
Those include 1) natural causes for natural processes and 2) today's natural processes were the same in Deep Past.
From that point on, basic evolution theory follows quite... well, naturally.

As for God, I frankly don't think He objects to evolution theory, just so long as we "get" Who is the Master of evolution -- Who's Plan does evolution support, Who created the dust of the earth out of which we are made?
I think He's fine with that.

176 posted on 06/04/2017 4:30:27 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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