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Even Prominent Conservatives Have Socialism Hiding Inside Their Heads
Federalist, the ^ | 10 May 2017 | Robert Tracinski

Posted on 05/10/2017 8:08:47 PM PDT by Lorianne

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1 posted on 05/10/2017 8:08:48 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

I guess I didn’t get that gene.


2 posted on 05/10/2017 8:16:22 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Lorianne

I don’t have any socialism in my head. Maybe because I am a high school drop out/kick out and never attended any institutions of higher learning.

Interesting article.


3 posted on 05/10/2017 8:18:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

I have a master’s degree and I approve your comment.

All degrees can do is legitimize some level of what one knows, and there are other ways to do that without college.


4 posted on 05/10/2017 8:27:27 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Lorianne
So once you’ve died, and no longer have property rights society needs to protect, there’s no particular moral precept that points toward helping your children inherit. On a moral level, I’d be perfectly comfortable with a 100 percent tax on anything you haven’t passed on before your death.

Couldn't disagree more. I worked hard before retirement so I wouldn't be a financial burden on my kids. Why should I work hard enough to provide beyond my immediate needs if you're going to take it all away when I die? What did you do to earn it? Personally, I would replace welfare with workfare. Anyone drawing transfer payments must show up for work at 7AM and do whatever public work needs to be done. My money should be used for 1) policing property rights, including a standing military, and 2) provide social overhead capital, like a public road system. Gov't should not be using my money to get re-elected by giving cell phones to deadbeats. Giving them everything I have left simply because I was killed in an accident and didn't give my money away soon enough make zero sense to me.

5 posted on 05/10/2017 8:34:17 PM PDT by econjack
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Now I’ll add another proposition: Society does not have an interest in your desire to ensure that your children are better off than other children. I understand that you have a great interest in this matter. I applaud the tireless work you put in to this end. But society’s job is all children, not specific children who are lucky enough to have hit the genetic lottery. [...] On a moral level, I’d be perfectly comfortable with a 100 percent tax on anything you haven’t passed on before your death.

Gee, I wonder if the estate planners and investment advisors and attorneys of really rich old people would find a perfectly legal (if cumbersome, or - for "ordinary" people - impossibly difficult) method to then avoid such a 100% death tax?

But society’s job is all children and their right to inherit, not specific children who are unlucky enough [...]

See: That same logic could be used to argue for the exactly opposite policy!

Regards,

6 posted on 05/10/2017 8:46:39 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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My money should be used for 1) policing property rights, including a standing military, and 2) provide social overhead capital, like a public road system. Gov't should not be using my money to get re-elected by giving cell phones to deadbeats. Giving them everything I have left simply because I was killed in an accident and didn't give my money away soon enough make zero sense to me.

To you, and to anyone else who doesn't have grits between his ears, instead of brains.

Regards,

7 posted on 05/10/2017 8:48:39 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I come from a family of hardcore liberals/leftists, and I was the first and only one in several generations not to even finish high school, what to speak of get a 4 year degree at least.

Black sheep doesn’t even describe it... I thank my lucky stars I never went to college.


8 posted on 05/10/2017 8:51:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Lorianne

If you are on Social Security, Medicare or Medicade you are forced to believe in Socialism.


9 posted on 05/10/2017 9:02:14 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Lorianne

Something like earned income tax credit.. where you only earn enough like $15000 pay in $50 to get a huge tax return like $8000 to 12000 from the hard working tax payers..


10 posted on 05/10/2017 10:12:58 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: Lorianne

You can read it here plenty of times.

“Trump should do this”
“Trump should do that”
“Trump should do XYZ “


11 posted on 05/10/2017 10:32:58 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: Lorianne; Impy; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; LS

It’s often the human instinct to want to help those in need and using the government to do so. The problem is that there’s good help and bad, and often the result is bad and enabling of negative behavior and costly to both the society and to the taxpayers.


12 posted on 05/10/2017 11:53:17 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: Lorianne

This article could have been reduced to a few short sentences, or maybe even one. Many self-identified “conservatives” are actually socialists, since their entire worldview is predicated on the ideal that the rights of the collective trump the rights of the individual. Government has no inherent responsibility for anyone’s children, only to maintain order so that each individual can provide for their own.


13 posted on 05/11/2017 3:54:12 AM PDT by LambSlave
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The government has no responsibility to provide for anyone; subsidizing behavior that results in homelessness does not ultimately help the individual or society. Family and private charity can handle legitimate needs, the rest should directly face the consequences of their poor decisions and modify their behavior.


14 posted on 05/11/2017 3:57:55 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: ConservativeMind
All degrees can do is legitimize some level of what one knows, and there are other ways to do that without college.

Really. You are going to be an electrical engineer with going to college? Good luck doing that. Try to get into med school without a bachelors degree. Try it.

15 posted on 05/11/2017 4:08:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bray

“If you are on Social Security, Medicare or Medicade you are forced to believe in Socialism”

Bingo. Nobody who collects a government check believes in socialism when it comes to “their” check, though


16 posted on 05/11/2017 4:10:11 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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But society’s job is all children...

It takes a socialist to raze a republic.

17 posted on 05/11/2017 5:07:02 AM PDT by PGalt
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I don’t disagree, but will point out that society didn’t ask for those redistributionist and Anti-Natural Law programs.

They were designed by rats for the purpose of keeping rats in power.


18 posted on 05/11/2017 5:32:07 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Lorianne
I think all this really means is that Meagan McArdle has successfully transferred all of her assets to a blind trust, and is no longer bound by any form of estate tax.

Hypocrisy is one of the most universal of human conditions, after all...

19 posted on 05/11/2017 5:35:12 AM PDT by detsaoT
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To: fieldmarshaldj; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; NFHale

I’d say certain races and religions are apt to want to truly help others. Others? Not so much. And others will decapitate you for being a non-believer.


20 posted on 05/11/2017 2:34:31 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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