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Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16184 for PC + Build 15208 for Mobile
Windows 10 Blog ^ | Apr 28, 2017 | Dona Sarkar

Posted on 05/01/2017 6:59:08 PM PDT by dayglored

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Another big helping of The Bleeding Edge...
1 posted on 05/01/2017 6:59:08 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; ...
Windows 10 Update - Insider Preview 16184... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 05/01/2017 7:01:06 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored
NOTE

This is the "Insider Preview" -- the latest and greatest changes to the moving target that is Windows 10.

It is NOT for the typical Windows user. It is for those of us who like living on the edge.

Like all previews, it has known bugs, is not necessarily stable, and certainly should not be used for production.

But if you want to see what's coming in the world of Windows 10, this is the place to be!

3 posted on 05/01/2017 7:03:22 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Between the forced updates and App marketing, Windows 10 has become quite annoying; otherwise, it’s wonderful.


4 posted on 05/01/2017 7:04:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: dayglored
> Pin your people to the taskbar – we’ll suggest some to start with, or you can pick your own! (Note: you are currently limited to having 3 people pinned to your taskbar currently.)

"Pin your people to the taskbar"... sounds vaguely like collecting dead butterflies. What was that focus group thinking? :-)

5 posted on 05/01/2017 7:07:42 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Lots of fun for certain of us who like development, meaning have skin the thickness of a rhinoceros. I did catch the Photos issue last time around and the Start menu crashing struck me as sloppy QA but I haven’t seen any of the other issues. For anyone considering joining the Insiders program, you’d better have a dedicated box with good image-level backups to even consider this stuff. It is kinda fun if you have a masochistic bent...


6 posted on 05/01/2017 7:13:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dayglored

“Whether you want to share a photo, make plans for dinner, or get an answer from a friend or coworker “

Uh, what if instead I want to run a refinery, paper mill, a hospital, a missile factory, a DMV office, an accounting firm, law firm, CAD/CAM design firm, then what?

Oh, yeah. Right. Widows 7 Pro/Enterprise until 2020. But what about after 2020, Microsoft?


7 posted on 05/01/2017 7:20:00 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Gene Eric
> Between the forced updates and App marketing, Windows 10 has become quite annoying; otherwise, it’s wonderful.

At one time, Windows was a very good operating system with a useful, reasonably intuitive GUI grafted onto it. It's become an advertising vehicle, with a great operating system grafted onto it, but hidden below it.

IMO the underlying operating system of Windows 10 -- the platform the applications run on -- is a beautiful thing, and the most solid Microsoft has produced to date. But all the crap they've ladled over it, Metro and animated tiles and advertising sales pitches... it's really a shame.

I hope somebody figures out how to scrape all that cr@p off, and just let me get some work done. Classic Shell is a sanity-saver, but it only goes partway towards a return to what we took for granted with Windows 7 and XP before that. I wouldn't go back to the XP OS -- it was buggy and insecure -- but the UI sure made it easy to get work done.

I WANT to like Windows 10. It's the future of Windows, and it will be in my future. But for now, Windows 7 is still the sweet spot for me. I view "People in my taskbar" with annoyance, not joy.

8 posted on 05/01/2017 7:21:47 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Billthedrill
> ...you’d better have a dedicated box with good image-level backups to even consider this stuff

I would not only second that, but say that you should be prepared to re-install from scratch on a moment's notice. Insider Previews are for people (like me, to be honest) who are willing to take chances. That's what spare hardware and VMs are for.

9 posted on 05/01/2017 7:24:34 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: catnipman
> Uh, what if instead I want to run a refinery, paper mill, a hospital, a missile factory, a DMV office, an accounting firm, law firm, CAD/CAM design firm, then what? Oh, yeah. Right. Widows 7 Pro/Enterprise until 2020.

I predict a lot of businesses will have switched to Linux by 2020, and lots of home users will have switched to Macs. The rest will continue using Win7 forever, regardless of the lack of security updates.

My fervent hope is that before 2020 rolls around, Windows 10 gets serious, drops this groooooovy teenage obsession with bullsh!!, and again becomes an operating system that is suitable for getting real work done.

I'm gonna need it, because even though I'm totally comfortable with Linux and Mac systems, and use them, I gotta have Windows for some stuff that only runs on Windows.

10 posted on 05/01/2017 7:29:10 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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11 posted on 05/01/2017 7:35:33 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: Billthedrill
> I did catch the Photos issue last time around and the Start menu crashing struck me as sloppy QA but I haven’t seen any of the other issues.

I rather liked this one in the latest:

"Navigating to Settings > Update & security > Windows Update may crash Settings app. You can simply re-open the Settings app again and it should work again."
That's a click-path that I would never want to see crash. Talk about undercutting confidence. But I understand, because that's the way Insider releases are.

Not for the faint of heart! :-)

12 posted on 05/01/2017 7:35:38 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Chode

"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"


13 posted on 05/01/2017 7:38:59 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Actually, I find Windows 10 to be “almost” exactly like Windows 7, but more secure and with a few more features and, actually, faster.

I don’t even use the “metro” UI, and the desktop looks exactly like what Windows 7 used to be like.

So, no complaints from me, and I don’t miss Win7 at all.


14 posted on 05/01/2017 7:40:22 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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To: dayglored

I’ll keep my Windows 7 for as long as I can thank you very much.


15 posted on 05/01/2017 7:41:16 PM PDT by McGruff (The terrorists have elected to receive.)
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Hi adorno. I do know what you're saying -- my own Win10 production desktop looks a lot like my Win7 production desktop, which in turn looks a lot like Win2K. Okay, I'm a Luddite about simple desktops.

The thing is, I'm a Sysadmin who spends some of my time helping my company's engineers build and test our software products, which have to run on stock Windows 10. So I have to deal with the stock Windows 10 UI a lot.

Likewise our servers are migrating towards 2016. I'm still a fan of 2008... I can live with 2012 with Classic Shell...

So I hear ya. In fact, most of the technical, working guys I know who like Win10 tell me they ditched the stock UI on Day One, just like you and I did. That should tell us something.

16 posted on 05/01/2017 7:46:08 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: McGruff

“From my cold, dead hands!”


17 posted on 05/01/2017 7:46:53 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

LOL, ain’t THAT the truth...


18 posted on 05/01/2017 7:51:13 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: catnipman
Widows 7 Pro/Enterprise until 2020. But what about after 2020, Microsoft?

That is the sixty four thousand dollar question, isn't it?

I don't know why a group of software developers don't get together and build an operating system to compete with Microsoft. There's a gigantic market opportunity just laying there for the taking.

19 posted on 05/01/2017 8:19:47 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: dayglored

Any good guesses on the timeline for general release of this update?


20 posted on 05/01/2017 9:18:30 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (...against all enemies, foreign or domestic...)
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