Posted on 04/26/2017 7:50:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin
The invective is seen as overblown by American weapons experts, who believe Pyongyang is likely a few years from having the capability of firing a nuclear-equipped missile that can reach the U.S. mainland.
Yet some leading emergency response planners view the persistent menace of North Korea as a new opportunity: reason to alert the American public that a limited nuclear attack can be survivable, with a few precautions.
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Officials at the Federal Emergency Management Agency and Department of Homeland Security say the nuclear safety directives are available, including online at Ready.gov, but they have not broadcast them more widely. Asked about spreading the word beyond the website, a FEMA spokesperson emailed a terse response: "At this time time there are no specific plans to do any messaging on this topic."
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"There is a lot of fatalism on this subject, the feeling that there will be untold death and destruction and there is nothing to be done," said Irwin Redlener, director of Columbia University's National Center for Disaster Preparedness. "But the thing that is frustrating for me is that, with some very simple public messaging, we could save hundreds of thousands of lives in a nuclear detonation."
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(North Korea's past nuclear tests have been far smaller, with the largest an estimated 10 kilotons, less than either of the atomic bombs used on Japan in World War II). Radioactive fallout would be carried miles by the jet stream and surface winds. While little might be done for immediate blast victims, researchers say that the public's response will be crucial.
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"The goal is to put as many walls and as much concrete, brick and soil between you and the radioactive material outside." The site recommends staying inside for at least 24 hours, unless authorities recommend coming out sooner.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...
Up until the era of widespread cell phone usage, rural areas of NC with volunteer fire departments had sirens that served multiple purposes, primarily to alert volunteer fire departments to report to the fire station. But, they were used with tornado warnings too, not that we got that many but they do happen here, and I suppose if it had ever been necessary, they’d have been used for air raids. You could hear them for many miles. I can’t remember the last time I heard one, suspect they’re no longer in use.
That's the difference now isn't it? Today's snow flakes are worried about offensive speech on campus. We OTH were worried about being turn into ash covered semi-cooked walking meat sticks.
“.......about 35 miles from a city probably on a target list and wondering what we’d actually survive.”............
With the success that Fat Boy has had with his missile testing, my guess is he would miss any target he selected, so no matter where you are, you could be hit.
The best and most important deterrent is to flatten No. Korea & Fat Boy BEFORE he fires any missiles.
The government plans usually involve getting fire, police, and ambulance assets out of the target zone. Along with that you evac doctors, nurses, emergency responders, and of course critical decision makers (politicians). This plan gets the responders out of the attack area rather than have all your assets burn up. Then they can move in after the attack for rescue and reconstruction and fire suppression.
One impediment to this is the population. If everyone jams into their cars and trucks with their bug out bags, the streets will be clogged in ten minutes and the Powers That Be won’t be able to move. Many escapees will be more interested in escaping than in obeying traffic laws and lights, ensuring a total jam (or so the PT think). So the Official Word is Stay Indoors, Stay Off The Streets.
There is a great propaganda movie called “Our Cities Must Fight” that explains why a citizen staying at home indoors is the right thing to do when you learn that YOUR city is targeted. It’s on archive.org.
I think (I haven’t seen the movie for a while) that one point the movie makes is that National Guard and police will be out in force to assure the streets are clear, so it is pointless to load up all your Mountain House cans and a shotgun in your 4x4 to scoot to the far hills anyway.
You know what it would take to do that, right?
I can hope that we have developed a deep penetrating instantly decapitating non nuclear weapon to do the job
They mocked the color coded threat level into oblivion too, but the left loves it for their own pet projects, from pollution to “heat index,” global warming don’tcha know.
That’s what many of us learned in the 1950s. We even had to practice it in elementary school.
Ha! I meant tile it before hand.
It was done on Looney toons all the time.
There is a training video out there called Shelter In Place that shows how. It was designed for people on a base that stores CW, and has an accident. Sheeting, duck tape, battery powered radio, amusing to watch if you don’t actually have to do it.
See the video...“Pulowski: Nuclear protection on a budget!"
LUCKILY...Amazon had a sale on the combo Pulowski/Orgasmatron shelter!
I’m just barely old enough to have mostly vague memories of duck and cover under the desk from probably first grade. The only reason I likely recall it at all was due to getting under my desk and assuming “the position” which was kneeling with your head down and your hands covering your neck and/or the back of your head as I recall. It was memorable because somebody had hocked a big lugie on the floor practically in front of my face and I had to stare at it in close proximity for the duration. Pretty nauseating. Greenish as I recall.
At least you don't have to worry about the caulk drying and setting ...
With the temperature at about 3000+ degrees and very dry air conditions, it should dry REALLY quickly.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WCme_K6MYLY
Day after Disaster
Has some pretty realistic description of the zone system
The expected life of Cheyenne Mountain during an attack from the Soviets was less than an hour. At this time the Norks can't get a nuke there but even when they get a long-range delivery system it will be a long time for them to attain the accuracy necessary to hold hard targets at risk, unless another country gives them better guidance systems.
so they nuke California. They’d be doing the rest of us a favor.
True.
Just making the point that there is *possibly* such a thing as a ‘nuclear bomb shelter’ :-)
Hit him when he is inspecting the inside of one of his tunnels, simultaneously, with 3 MOABs.
That’s my old study hall.
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