Posted on 04/07/2017 7:37:17 AM PDT by C19fan
On the heels of the Marine Corps' desire for a new rifle for its infantrymen, the U.S. Army now says it is contemplating a dramatic switch in rifles. The service is considering going back to battle rifles—heavier rifles that can hit targets at longer ranges. The last time the Army fielded such a rifle was in the 1960s.
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It’s not possible to build a better battle rifle than the M-14. It’s the pinnacle.
Shift the stock to lighter material and it’s a pound lighter.
Wouldn’t trade my SCAR 17 for any other 7.62
I hadn’t thought of that. There is a role for heavy slugs. Full auto probably isn’t it unless in a bottleneck case.
I carried just about everything in my time but the M14 was the one I stuck with the longest. Loved that damned thing.
I’m with you Ancesthntr —
The ability to keep concealment while exposing only the gun is unusual, but effective. I’ve looked at all the videos, and some others that reflect the ability to “lock” on a target moving 30mph with no degradation of the success of the shot. They sell the remote, infra red, night scope as well. There is a video running around where Taya Kyle (with only minimal training) bested a national champion sniper at a variety of distances and wind speeds. She scored 100% hits. The sniper scored around 54%. The scope/computer calculates wind speed, distance, and elevation. It’s on my Christmas list for my kids. Somehow I think I’ll have to cough up the $14,000 myself. I was thinking that if/when we get a period of insurrection, it would be priceless.
The SCAR 17 is top of the food chain in 7.62 but a light weight FN FAL with an 18 in barrel or a modernized M14 with a 19.25 in barrel will give it a run for it’s money.
The FN FAL is actually superior to the SCAR in some ways.
May I suggest Lasik? I know, not as much fun as buying gun stuff, but it works.
It’s an NCStar 3-9x42 illuminated reticle scope with a laser designator. Got the mount from Sarco. It takes the place of the original slide-off action dust cover, but is more substantial. No issues with it so far.
And the bore might as well have been new when I got it. Not so new now, but crazy accurate.
Thought about Lasik. Still thinking about it. Also still getting my metabolism stabilized after being diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic last September. It was starting to mess with my vision, os that’s a concern. Took aggressive action to deal with the issue, and my day-to-day blood sugar is now in the low 100s and last A1C was 5.7 (down from 12.5). 34 lbs lighter now, too.
My mother-in-laws late Dad was in Korea and his Lt. would routinely chew him out at times when he could catch him carrying a light weight M1 Carbine. “Reynolds, get rid of that thing and get you a Garand right now” Yes sir! His Lt. didn’t think much of the light weight .30 caliber round, it didn’t offer enough penetration as the 30’06 of the Garand.
That being said my uncle carried an M1 Carbine through his entire tour in Korea, he was in the 24th and the first unit deployed as a speed bump in the initial Norks invasion in June 50. He had worked on the sear so that it would fire full auto. He liked the rifle and carried two 30 rd mags taped together for a quick change plus the usual 15 rd mags.
Another uncle carried an M1 Carbine in 3rd Army and liked the weapon well enough to buy one when he got out of the service for home protection and used it to protect his neighborhood during the Detroit riots in the 1960’s.
Another uncle who was a Normandy, preferred the heavier hitting Garand so to each his own.
I frankly would prefer a heavier round like the .308 in the G3 or FAL rifle series.
“The military” huh? Guess you didn’t grace a uniform at any point, did you?”
Wrong.I spent six years active duty in the Air Force.During that time I carried the M-16A1 and the What we called the GAU.A shortend version of the M-16 with a flash suppressor that was four inches long.
I stated what I said because it’s true.The Army especially decided to go with the M-16 because it was lighter,allowed the troops to carry more ammo etc.
Now they are discovering what was known during the Vietnam war that a larger caliber weapon would has done the job better then the M-16.
By the way the Army didn’t buy the M-16 until the AirForce purchased them for its Security Police Forces.
LMAO! yeah, you’re right.
I have the DSA top cover with rail (the one stabilized by set screws on the sides), but haven’t made up my mind on the scope. I think something like a “Designated Marksman” compact style 1-4x like a Vortex Strike Eagle would be perfect - the BDC reticle works with either 5.56 or 7.62.
LMAO! yeah, you’re right.
Yup. Keep it as is, never let it go and take it to your grave,but don’t publicize it.
My reservations regarding grave robbery only go so far.
I’d leave the gold rolex, the money clip and the diamond tie tack and wedding ring but that FAL would be long gone.
I don't want to sue the bastards, I want to KILL them.
My spill chucker missed “lethality’
And your combat experience is what..?
I have engaged the enemy at 600M and it even hit one guy at that range with an M-14. They tend to not believe that you can hit that far and make the mistake of being exposed. I tried to hit a sniper who only his head and right shoulder exposed at that same range who had fired at me but missed, but I missed him by what looked like 3 feet.
Many firefights at 300m - the M-14 was a real killer at that range. Best of al, the M-14 penetrated sand berms, gravestones, walls and pretty much anything else that was in the way.
We Marines were well-trained in shooting accurately at man-sized targets out to 500m. Waiting to hear about your experience.
Should that be a recommendation for infantry combat? Sorry but being a Security Policeman in a clean, sheltered environment is not quite like extended combat in the villes, treelines, and paddies we lived and fought in.
And "carrying more ammo" but blitzing it away in the brush is also not the same as killing anything - more of a noisemaker.
Detestable things ... I turn them off whenever able.
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Might work - you try it first!
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