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On this date in 1622

Posted on 03/22/2017 4:23:07 AM PDT by Bull Snipe

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To: sargon

It was quite an eye-opener for me to read the book “Border Wars”, which a FReeper recommended. Some awful deeds done at the hands of the noble savages.


41 posted on 03/22/2017 9:40:42 AM PDT by Bigg Red (The LORD of hosts is with us; our stronghold is the God of Jacob. Ps 46:12)
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To: Psalm 73

The torture was part of the culture of many of these tribes.


42 posted on 03/22/2017 9:42:18 AM PDT by Bigg Red (The LORD of hosts is with us; our stronghold is the God of Jacob. Ps 46:12)
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To: Bigg Red

I’ve seen information that says 10% of ships going to the new world did not make the return voyage. 10% chance of dying at sea was considered a worthwhile risk.


43 posted on 03/22/2017 9:57:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Louis Foxwell

At best we are assured of a dirty civil war, “Rwanda X Bosnia.”


44 posted on 03/22/2017 9:58:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

They were brave, tough people, to be sure.


45 posted on 03/22/2017 10:25:53 AM PDT by Bigg Red (The LORD of hosts is with us; our stronghold is the God of Jacob. Ps 46:12)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Thanks


46 posted on 03/22/2017 10:42:29 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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To: Bull Snipe; RegulatorCountry
John Rolfe, husband of Pocahontas (deceased prior to 1622), died in 1622. It's not known if he died in the massacre or from wounds sustained in the massacre. By 1622 he was married to Jane Pierce, my great aunt. Jane's mother, Joan, was my 10th great-grandmother; her eldest daugher, Cicely, is my direct ancestor. They came over to Jamestowne in 1609 and survived the “starving winter”.

By the late 1700's their decendents (my ancestors) had migrated to North Carolina. Hearty stock there.

47 posted on 03/22/2017 1:33:27 PM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: Bigg Red

Yes! It was really good, at least I thought so, it stuck very much to the facts, or what we know to be the facts. I saw it twice. I thought it was probably the most realistic movie ever made about native Americans, in this case the Powhatans. This wasn’t the usual crap of someone dressed like an indian and doing a pow wow and saying how, this really showed how much nature and wildlife dominated native American culture and surprisingly their personalities. Without revealing too much, the first meeting between the colony and the Powhatans is utterly mind blowing, like you are witnessing history. As for leftist propaganda, I think the movie may have gone a little harsh on portraying Smith and the colonists as if they were invading and destroying the symbiosis between the Powhatans and nature, but on the other hand, that’s exactly what they did didn’t they. It’s not like the director Terrence Mallick is being leftist about it, he is just stating the facts. This guy John Smith came to that land and proclaimed it “New England” no different from say some Muslim moving into your neighborhood and declaring it “New Mecca”. And the thing is, when Smith and his gang were starving to death the Powhatans brought them food out of compassion and Smith responded by attacking them later on. You can read about all this right here.........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_(explorer)

Here’s the trailer for it.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVUBBW4ALD0


48 posted on 03/22/2017 4:26:19 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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To: Pollster1

Biblical consequence of legalized national child sacrifice is invasion and conquest. Native Americans did it and we all know about the Aztecs and Mayans “religion.”

http://www.persee.fr/doc/jsa_0037-9174_1931_num_23_1_1088


49 posted on 03/22/2017 5:09:32 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Bigg Red

NO!!!!

Not for being PC, but being ponderously artsy-fartsy.

We had to turn it off after a half hour or so. Hardly any speaking, and lots of new-age background music, and waving fields of grass. Far too boring.


50 posted on 03/22/2017 8:15:14 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

My ancestors were in Jamestowne at the time, having arrived in 1607, or 08. They lived short, and hard, lives.


51 posted on 03/23/2017 6:51:09 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Travis McGee
I’ve seen information that says 10% of ships going to the new world did not make the return voyage. 10% chance of dying at sea was considered a worthwhile risk.

My Swedish forebear who immigrated later than the English side of my family arrived in the 1630s -- first as a teen-aged deck hand -- and made the trip across the Atlantic 3 times, as he returned Europe collect his pay and find a wife and bring her back to settle permanently in "New Sweden", which (by then) had fallen first to the Dutch and then to the British. I have always thought that to be an amazing accomplishment -- 3 times across the Atlantic in the 1630s. But, it hardly exceeds the bravado of my British female ancestor who traveled alone to Jamestowne to collect her father's legacy since he had died here in the early 1600s. She stayed and married and died in childbirth. Life was even tougher for women, methinks!

52 posted on 03/23/2017 7:00:20 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

As did most settlers. Their hard times were tempered by the knowledge that they were able to live by the sweat of their brow and could provide an inheritance for their children.


53 posted on 03/23/2017 7:02:54 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

We came here to settle this land and make a living for our family. We did not come here to be robbed by an arrogant government of snide elitists who demand a larger and larger portion of our resources.


54 posted on 03/23/2017 7:06:46 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Okay, thanks. I watched the trailer and was turned off by seeing a scantily-clad, beautiful and nubile Pocahantas being eyed by Smith. So, I knew right there that it was not going to follow historical accuracy.


55 posted on 03/23/2017 8:26:29 AM PDT by Bigg Red (The LORD of hosts is with us; our stronghold is the God of Jacob. Ps 46:12)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

We are all pitiful snowflakes compared to them!


56 posted on 03/23/2017 9:27:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Bull Snipe

I’ll be visiting the Jamestown settlement for my vacation in August. This article will help me to know my history.


57 posted on 03/23/2017 10:03:10 AM PDT by EvilCapitalist (Lock her up!)
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