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To: jeffersondem
I concede your point: at the time the Constitution was adopted, only 13 of the original 13 states were slave states. And of the 13 slave states, only nine were in the north. And of the nine northern slave states, only nine voted to include slavery in the Constitution.

It is a common and calculated tactic of your ilk to conflate the original British Colonies with the original States of the United States. Slavery was foisted upon the Colonies by the British. The death knell for slavery in those Colonies began precisely with the creation of the US Constitution. The northern States began immediate steps for the eventual abolition of slavery concurrent with the creation of the Constitution. But I think you know that. The eventual ending of any importation of slaves was written into the Constitution.

Please try to be more specific with your broad brush generalizations. For example: "nine of the nine northern slave states voted to include slavery in the Constitution". Now do you understand how silly that sounds? Can you try to be more specific when you say "include slavery". Some people may get the wrong idea when people such as you and your ilk go running around spouting these tired lost cause memes.

60 posted on 03/22/2017 11:57:36 AM PDT by HandyDandy ("I reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war.")
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To: HandyDandy; jeffersondem
HandyDandy: "The death knell for slavery in those Colonies began precisely with the creation of the US Constitution.
The northern States began immediate steps for the eventual abolition of slavery concurrent with the creation of the Constitution."

If you check out this link, you'll see that gradual abolition actually began soon after the Declaration of Independence:

  1. 1777 -- Vermont
  2. 1780 -- Pennsylvania
  3. 1783 -- Massachusetts
  4. 1783 -- New Hampshire
  5. 1784 -- Connecticut
  6. 1784 -- Rhode Island
  7. 1787 -- Northwest Territories (Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin)

That left New York (1799) and New Jersey (1804) which had not yet started gradual abolition by the time of the constitutional convention in 1787.

As of the 1790 census, only Vermont and Massachusetts reported no slaves, and as of 1850, only New Jersey in the Northeast reported some slaves.
In the meantime, Southern slaves grew from about 700,000 in 1790 to nearly 4 million in 1860.

In the 1790 census, of 700,000 total slaves, about 40,000 lived in the North = 6%.
By 1860 of 4,000,000 total slaves, only 35 total lived outside the South = 0.001%

61 posted on 03/22/2017 12:50:38 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: HandyDandy

“Can you try to be more specific when you say “include slavery”.”

Article I, Section 2. Start with that.


64 posted on 03/22/2017 5:13:35 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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