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Why America Fell for Casablanca, and Why the Classic Film Is Losing its Hold on Movie Lovers.
Slate ^ | FEB. 27 2017 | Laura Miller

Posted on 03/06/2017 8:47:12 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: murron

I am 65 and I was, heh heh


121 posted on 03/07/2017 8:28:48 AM PST by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (------>VMFA 235- '69-'72 KMCAS <------- "Death Angels")
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To: a fool in paradise

“Citizen Kane is yesterday’s outrage over Hearst and his newspaper empire. Kane is not a pleasant man and so enduring a film about him isn’t a joy. And if you don’t have stones to throw at Hearst you don’t have that pleasure either. Modern audiences today are left with camera tricks and composition. Okayyyyy. Looks nice but not “the end all” of cinema.”

that’s exactly right, and it’s truly amazing that the leftist outrage of Hearst’s era has been passed down by so many generations of film school professors who worship it as “the greatest film ever made”, which is as much about the film being prototypical propaganda in the guise of fiction as the supposedly brilliantly innovative “techniques” that it embodies.


122 posted on 03/07/2017 8:44:36 AM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: JennysCool
This article is BS

Agreed. It remains a superb film.

I've seen it dozens of times and it holds up very, very well.

123 posted on 03/07/2017 8:47:08 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Rastus

The power of Citizen Kane is in the image of the sled being tossed into the furnace in the closing seconds. It is the one image that makes the whole thing work.


124 posted on 03/07/2017 8:54:46 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Neanderthal

I could sit here all day and watch Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers and Eleanor Powell.......just wow. I pull them up on Youtube and waste away the day......lol


125 posted on 03/07/2017 9:41:46 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: nopardons

You’re right, I didn’t know it. I never really liked the early, early movies anyway. The lack of good sound and cinaphotography just turned me off. I think the 40’s were the true golden age of Hollywood but the 2 blockbusters of the 30’s GWTW and Wizard of Oz were priceless and even though I don’t think I’ve ever seen either movie in it’s original state before it underwent improvement. Heck, they might have stunk too.......lol


126 posted on 03/07/2017 10:28:52 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: nickcarraway
Casablanca did give us a good meme, though...

"I'm shocked, just shocked."

127 posted on 03/07/2017 10:31:41 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Dawgreg

cinematography.....(sigh)


128 posted on 03/07/2017 10:33:08 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: mom4melody

I have never watched one Star Wars movie. I could never muster up enough interest to waste my time watching it.......;)


129 posted on 03/07/2017 10:35:25 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: USS Alaska

You must be a Democrat resorting to name calling for someone disagreeing with the popular opinion. I guess you didn’t watch the movie Braveheart. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, and I think that you are nothing but a follower for not thinking for yourself. I’ll repeat it here. I don’t see what the big deal is about Casablanca. The acting was typical of that era as it was cheesy and overdone. I’ve seen better Bogart movies. Your parents obviously didn’t teach you manners.


130 posted on 03/07/2017 11:28:46 AM PST by murron
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To: Jimmy Valentine

I love Ingrid Bergman. I thought she was wonderful in Gaslight and Bells of St. Mary’s. I’m just saying that in my opinion, Casablanca was just an OK movie, and not worthy of all the hype.


131 posted on 03/07/2017 11:30:07 AM PST by murron
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To: Borges

This isnt rocket science - they aren’t available on Netflix or Roku.

My kid discovered swing, big band, 20s, and 30s music from Bioshock. Favorite artists - Sinatra, Bennett and Torme.


132 posted on 03/07/2017 11:33:46 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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To: hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998

That’s fine. But for years I had heard about how great Casablanca was, and that everytime it showed somewhere, there were lines outside the theater and it was always sold out. So I sat down to watch it and was expecting something on the order of Gone With the Wind. After watching it, I looked at my husband and shrugged my shoulders. What is the big deal about this movie? It was just an ordinary love story from the 40s and to me nothing special. But if you loved it, that’s fine. But I didn’t.


133 posted on 03/07/2017 11:33:51 AM PST by murron
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To: Borges

I blame the death of Saturday morning cartoons. The foundation block of my classical education (and classic movie education) is an animated rabbit. I don’t think anybody is doing that kind of thing anymore, Speilberg did a pretty good job of rebirthing it with Animaniacs, but I think their primary audience was adults looking for another lap in the WB animation pool. And Animaniacs ended 20 years ago. Want to get kids interested in the great movies again, stick a Peter Lorre imitation in a popular cartoon.


134 posted on 03/07/2017 11:34:19 AM PST by discostu (There are times when all the world's asleep, the questions run too deep, for such a simple man.)
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To: Dawgreg

Have you seen the Humphrey Bogart version of Maltese Falcon? How about the Charlton Heston version of Ben Hur?


135 posted on 03/07/2017 11:38:24 AM PST by discostu (There are times when all the world's asleep, the questions run too deep, for such a simple man.)
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To: lee martell
I have seen and have on disc, every Brit & American film made of A CHRISTMAS CAROL, including a silent one and the Sims one, is THE BEST !

I hate CGI and all of the garbage that they put in today's movies! Movie makers now assume that special effects are the ONLY "important" thing there is and so movies wind up being acted by actors who can't act and mumble, scripts that a 7th grader ( from when I was in that grade ) could have written better, car crashes, blood & gore, and gratuitous nudity and sex.

It's a very rare movie, indeed, made today, that I can watch and enjoy; unlike the many films from the '30s-'60s.

136 posted on 03/07/2017 12:06:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: discostu

Maltese Falcon yes, Ben-Hur no.....just never thought Ben-Hur would be something I’d like........dunno why really.....;)


137 posted on 03/07/2017 12:10:41 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

I adore Sidney Greenstreet and have seen every ( too few, really ) movie he was ever in. He and Lorre, where a GREAT team; to drama, what Laurel & Hardy, Abbot & Costello, were to comedy.


138 posted on 03/07/2017 12:13:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: fella
It wasn't in Cinarama; it was Cinescope, which is different.

And I should know, because I saw both kinds of films, as well as 20001, when it first came out.

139 posted on 03/07/2017 12:15:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dawgreg

Both are remakes. Bogie’s Falcon was the 3rd time in 10 years that story was turned into a movie. Remakes are a part of Hollywood that goes all the way back. Movies are a very expensive undertaking, and the folks that finance them like guarantees (like an existing audience) and cut corners (like a property that’s already been bought). And some of those remakes are classics.


140 posted on 03/07/2017 12:20:23 PM PST by discostu (There are times when all the world's asleep, the questions run too deep, for such a simple man.)
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