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The Most (And Least) Worthwhile College Degrees
Zero Hedge ^ | 03/06/2017

Posted on 03/05/2017 8:28:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind

For many young people, the decision of whether to extend their education careers and attend university is a tough one to make. With soaring costs, Statista's Martin Armstrong notes, not all that choose to do a bachelor's degree graduate with the feeling that it was all worthwhile.

Emolument surveyed 1,800 graduates to reveal that the most regretted major is psychology. Only 33 percent of bachelors of this particular science said their degree was worth it. On the other end of the scale, 87 percent of chemistry and natural sciences alumni said they felt their studies were worth it.

Infographic: The Most (and Least) Worthwhile Degrees | Statista

You will find more statistics at Statista

We are reminded of The Mises Institute's Josh Grossman comments, that easy access to student loans has created demand for useless degrees.

Last week, former Secretary of Education and US Senator Lamar Alexander wrote in the Wall Street Journal that a college degree is both affordable and an excellent investment. He repeated the usual talking point about how a college degree increases lifetime earnings by a million dollars, “on average.” That part about averages is perhaps the most important part, since all college degrees are certainly not created equal. In fact, once we start to look at the details, we find that a degree may not be the great deal many higher-education boosters seem to think it is.

In my home state of Minnesota, for example, the cost of obtaining a four-year degree at the University of Minnesota for a resident of Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Manitoba, or Wisconsin is $100,720 (including room and board and miscellaneous fees). For private schools in Minnesota such as St. Olaf, however, the situation is even worse. A four-year degree at this institution will cost $210,920.

This cost compares to an average starting salary for 2014 college graduates of $48,707. However, like GDP numbers this number is misleading because it is an average of all individuals who obtained a four-year degree in any academic field. Regarding the average student loan debt of an individual who graduated in 2013, about 70 percent of these graduates left college with an average student loan debt of $28,400. This entails the average student starting to pay back these loans six months after graduation or upon leaving school without a degree. The reality of this situation is that assuming a student loan interest rate of 6.8 percent and a ten-year repayment period, the average student will be paying $326.83 every month for 120 months or a cumulative total re-payment of $39,219.28. Depending upon a student’s job, this amount can be a substantial monthly financial burden for the average graduate.

All Degrees Are Not of Equal Value

Unfortunately, there is no price incentive for students to choose degrees that are most likely to enable them to pay back loans quickly or easily. In other words, these federal student loans are subsidizing a lack of discrimination in students’ major choice. A person majoring in communications can access the same loans as a student majoring in engineering. Both of these students would also pay the same interest rate, which would not occur in a free market.

In an unhampered market, majors that have a higher probability of default should be required to pay a higher interest rate on money borrowed than majors with a lower probability of default. In summary, it is not just the federal government’s subsidization of student loans that is increasing the cost of college, but the fact that demand for low-paying and high-default majors is increasing, because loans for these majors are supplied at the same price as a major providing high salaries to its possessor with a low probability of default.

And which programs are the most likely to pay off for the student? The top five highest paying bachelor’s degrees include: petroleum engineering, actuarial mathematics, nuclear engineering, chemical engineering and electronics and communications engineering, while the top five lowest paying bachelor’s degrees are: animal science, social work, child development and psychology, theological and ministerial studies, and human development, family studies, and related services. Petroleum engineering has an average starting salary of $93,500 while animal science has an average starting salary of $32,700. This breaks down for a monthly salary for the petroleum engineer of $7,761.67 versus a person working in animal science with a monthly salary of $2,725. Based on the average monthly payment mentioned above, this would equate to a burden of 4.2 percent of monthly income (petroleum engineer) versus a burden of 12 percent of monthly income (animal science). This debt burden is exacerbated by the fact that it is now nearly impossible to have student loan debts wiped away even if one declares bankruptcy.

Ignoring Careers That Don’t Require a Degree

Meanwhile, there are few government loan programs geared toward funding an education in the trades. And yet, for many prospective college students, the trades might be a much more lucrative option. Using the example of plumbing, the average plumber earns $53,820 per year with the employer paying the apprentice a wage and training.

Acknowledging the fact that this average salary is for master plumbers, it still equates to a $20,000 salary difference between it and someone with a four-year degree in animal science while having no student loans as a bonus. Outside of earning a four-year degree in science, technology, engineering, math or, accounting with an average starting salary of $53,300, nursing with an average starting salary of $53,624, or as a family practice doctor on the lower end of physician pay of $161,000, society might be better served if parents and educators would stop using the canard that a four-year degree is always worth the cost outside of a few majors mentioned above. Encouraging students to consider the trades and parents to give their children the money they would spend on a four-year college degree to put a down payment on a house might be a better use of finite economic resources. The alternative of forcing the proverbial square peg into a round hole will condemn another generation to student debt slavery forcing them to put off buying a home or getting married.

Loans Drive Overall Demand

The root of the problem is intervention by the federal government in providing student loans. Since 1965 when President Johnson signed the Higher Education Act tuition, room, and board has increased from $1,105 per year to $18,943 in 2014–2015. This is an increase of 1,714 percent in 50 years. In addition, the Higher Education Act of 1965 created loans which are made by private institutions yet guaranteed by the federal government and capped at 6.8 percent. In case of default on the loans, the federal government — that is, the taxpayers — pick up the tab in order for these lenders to recover 95 cents on every dollar lent. Loaning these funds at below market interest rates and with the federal government backing up these risky loans has led to massive malinvestment as the percentage of high-school graduates enrolled in some form of higher education has increased from 10 percent before World War II to 70 percent by the 1990s. Getting a four-year degree in nearly any academic field seemed to be the way in which to enter or remain in the middle class.

But just as with the housing bubble, keeping interest below market levels while increasing the money supply in terms of loans — while having the taxpayer on the hook for a majority of these same loans — leads to an avalanche of defaults and is a recipe for disaster.

 



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Society
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1 posted on 03/05/2017 8:28:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I doubt if I spent $1,000 on my degree. I tested out.


2 posted on 03/05/2017 8:30:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There should be NO federal loans for fake majors.

The credulous students fall for “expand your horizons” —it SOUNDS good, right..?

If the schools REALLY believe it’s a sound investment then LET THEM SHARE THE RISK:

If the students defaults, then the SCHOOL eats the debt.

They SAY those majors are good so LET THEM **ACT** THAT WAY.

As things now stand the risk the sucker students face is infinte, that for the school is ZERO.


3 posted on 03/05/2017 8:32:12 PM PST by gaijin
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To: SeekAndFind

28 years ago I hired a lab manager, a chemist with a PHD, for $40K. Seemed pretty low for a fellow with all that education.


4 posted on 03/05/2017 8:33:50 PM PST by umgud
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To: SeekAndFind
I majored in English. I taught until retirement in a Catholic high school.
The graphs & charts speak of the lack of wisdom of such a choice.

But I wouldn't change my career for any.
5 posted on 03/05/2017 8:39:54 PM PST by jobim
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To: SeekAndFind

Literature and Engineering on par!


6 posted on 03/05/2017 8:41:15 PM PST by cornelis
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To: jobim

Ad there is nothing wrong with learning a trade, either. The world needs plumbers and not women’s studies majors


7 posted on 03/05/2017 8:41:20 PM PST by brucedickinson
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To: cornelis

Oh, what a feeling!


8 posted on 03/05/2017 8:41:41 PM PST by cornelis
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To: gaijin

There should be no federal loans for any major. The government should not encourage kids to start their adult life in debt. Plus, take away loans and tuition will drop.


9 posted on 03/05/2017 8:42:34 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: SeekAndFind

I graduated from a private college that is in the MIAC, same as St. Olaf. My alma mater was, at that time, the most tuition driven school in the MIAC; found that out my senior year. It wasn’t close to $210,000 in total cost. The costs have skyrocketed. I maxed out on student loans and my total college debt was $20,000-I had scholarships and grants as well, but not that much. That was twenty years ago.

My son has been contacted by the football coach there and I am strongly discouraging it. Kind of sad for me as it would be fun to have that connection. My husband’s nephew was on the football team, he graduated last year so that is another connection. Just don’t think it’s worth the cost.


10 posted on 03/05/2017 8:43:53 PM PST by NorthstarMom
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To: SeekAndFind

Literature is more valuable than physics?


11 posted on 03/05/2017 8:52:24 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

The bar chart lumps Physics in with the Life Sciences and Health Care. Very odd.

I also find it odd that the chart has Engineering tied with Literature! Really? That’s a bit hard to believe.

Maybe the engineers who were questioned are mad because they are not making as much as their children’s orthodontists.


12 posted on 03/05/2017 8:53:51 PM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Law seems to be a bit of an anomaly since no one gets a job based on a batchelors degree in law.

I would argue that many of the bottom categories end up in teaching jobs, where due to the screwed-up way educators are paid, it may be true that the 4-year degree isn’t considered very valuable other than to get a job. You don’t need a Masters degree to teach 4th grade, but you damn sure need it if you want to earn more money.


13 posted on 03/05/2017 9:03:34 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: BenLurkin
Literature is more valuable than physics?

Can a physicist sell you French fries?

14 posted on 03/05/2017 9:04:43 PM PST by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)
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To: SeekAndFind

Years ago while in the Air Force, I came to work with a Captain...whose degree was in physiology. He came out of college and found work within some clinic in Florida. After about twelve months, he came to the conclusion that his chief job was to just write out prescriptions for various drugs (nothing more than that). He was attempting to treat people for their original problem but most had developed a drug-problem from previous doctors giving them some fantastic drugs. At the end of two years, he gave up and joined the Air Force.

I think part of the overall problem is that we’ve cheapened the whole degree enough....that most average high school students could take courses and pass.


15 posted on 03/05/2017 9:11:17 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind

With a Bachelor of Marxism & Homosexuality, which is basically any liberal arts degree, you can find part time work in Obama’s OFA.


16 posted on 03/05/2017 9:29:25 PM PST by libh8er
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To: jobim
I majored in English.

It all depends what you do with your knowledge, and how motivated you are. You did well.

I was worried about my oldest daughter, when she majored in English. I thought she would have a tough time finding a job. But she always told me money isn't everything, and she was chasing after her dream. Her dream was also about playing a guitar in a field of flowers, which wouldn't pay the bills. She quickly graduated, became a journalist, then editor, then a technical writer, all well paid, before becoming a project manager earning over $150,000/year. Plus she learned guitar and has played it in fields of flowers. Made me go huh!

17 posted on 03/05/2017 9:31:24 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Leaning Right

H1-B Visa is a ban on citizenship for all STEM degrees. Engineering degrees are money losers for many because managers are US citizens but demand foreigners beneath.

75% of Silicon Valley are foreigners.

Now how much is your child’s tech degree worth when the industry demands foreigners??


18 posted on 03/05/2017 9:37:52 PM PST by TheNext ("PULL THE ABC BROADCAST LICENSE!" "Give it to TEA Party.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Damn! I have a Bs in Psychology. Does that mean I have to give back all the money I made from working in the aviation industry for 25 years and the income I now enjoy from my investments?
It is not so much what your degree is in, but rather what you do with your time after college when you have used the degree to access the workplace.
For most of us all a degree shows is that you were willing to do the work required to earn it, not that you really learned what to do.


19 posted on 03/05/2017 9:40:28 PM PST by SPI-Man (Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. I. Asimov)
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> Now how much is your child’s tech degree worth when the industry demands foreigners?? <

Excellent point. Let’s hope Trump will do something to turn that around.


20 posted on 03/05/2017 9:41:38 PM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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