Flashback: Vladimir Putin's Bad Blood With Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama

TIME ^ | Jul 26, 2016 | Simon Shuster

[saywhatagain]

At a crisis meeting with his advisers on Dec. 8 of that year (2011), the Russian leader chose to lay the blame on one meddling foreign diplomat: U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

[saywhatagain]

Power of clarity and perspective. Of course Russia's involvement in last years elections was of no consequence until Hillary lost. Since then . . . its been hell to pay.

Re Hillary: December 2011

"She set the tone for certain actors inside the country; she gave the signal," Putin said of Clinton at the time, accusing her of ordering the opposition movement into action like some kind of revolutionary sleeper cell. "They heard this signal and, with the support of the U.S. State Department, started actively doing their work."

Five years later, the U.S. presidential elections may have given Putin his chance for getting even. According to Clinton’s campaign staff and a number of cyber-security experts, Russian hackers in the service of the Kremlin were behind last week’s leak of emails from the Democratic National Committee. The hacked messages appeared to show DNC officials, who are meant to remain neutral during the Democratic Party’s primary race, favoring Clinton over her then-rival, Senator Bernie Sanders.

Re Obama: September 2013

Obama’s frustrations began several years ago. Remember back in 2013, when the US government started a propaganda campaign about Syrian chemical weapons and warned of «red lines» that could not be crossed? Apparently, the US government came within an ace or two of launching massive air attacks on Syria. Putin intervened and the Syrian government gave up its chemical weapons, removing the US pretext for intervention. The print media had a field day showing Putin helping Obama out of a corner of his own making. All the while, Putin kept urging Russian-US cooperation against the jihadists in Syria, trying to draw the United States away from its ruinous policies. To no avail. Who then acted with greater statesmanship, Putin or Obama?

Temporarily thwarted in Syria, the United States opened up a new front on Russia’s southern frontier in the Ukraine. It backed the coup d’état in Kiev and turned a blind eye to the fascist vanguard, which kept the new Ukrainian junta in power. «The fascists are just ‘a few bad apples’», officials said in Washington, thinking that NATO had scored a great victory in getting its hands on Sevastopol so it could kick the Russian Black Sea fleet out of its traditional home base.You have to give credit to Obama; he was ambitious, aiming for a big prize and the humiliation of Russia and its president. Again, he was thwarted not so much by President Putin but by the Russian people of the Crimea who immediately mobilised their local self-defence units backed by «polite people», Russian marines stationed in Sevastopol, to kick out the Ukrainians with scarcely a shot fired. They organised a referendum to approve entry into the Russian Federation. Reunification was quickly approved by a huge majority and celebrated in Moscow. Putin gave a remarkably candid speech, explaining the Russian position. «NATO remains a military alliance,’ he said, «and we are against having a military alliance making itself at home right in our backyard or in our historic territory. I simply cannot imagine that we would travel to Sevastopol to visit NATO sailors. Of course, most of them are wonderful guys, but it would be better to have them come and visit us, be our guests, rather than the other way round».

What Obama must hate most of all is Putin’s exposure of US support for Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State. Who indeed is responsible for the «slaughter» in Syria? Obama calls it fighting for democracy. «Airstrike democracy», Putin once derisively replied. «Do you realise what you have done?» Putin asked at the UN in 2015, shocking the MSM. Obviously not, if one is to judge by Obama’s remarks of the last few days. He’s still the obsessive adolescent with doubts about himself and in over his head against a real statesman.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/23/loser-malice-what-behind-obama-attacks-putin.html

[Bon mots]

He just sees two idiots and responds accordingly.

[Uncle Sam 911]

Was this written in the Kremlin?

[Jean2]

If I were Putin or the Kremlin; I would have supported Hillary rather than Trump. Simply because Hillary was a known quantity and they sort of owed her one. She was the one who handed over approximately 40% of our uranium.

[DesertRhino]

Looks pretty accurate. What part do you not agree with?

[usurper]

Simply because Hillary was a known quantity and they sort of owed her one.

She was a known quantity alright, like Obama known for making stupid decisions that were not in the US or the words best interest. They left a path of destabilized counties and destruction of everything they touched.

Trump on the other hand can be counted on to do whatever is in the US best interest. He's completely predictable and does not play games.

[combat_boots]

0bama was detained in Moscow as a Senator.
0bama was excluded from that meeting on trade, at which time he went to the closed door and started banging on it. Remember?
0bama was hot miked on having flexibility after his election.
0bama GAVE Russia the Middle East/Syrian conflict wholesale, and with it, supremacy in Middle Eastern affairs.
0bama is allied with Iran, which is not necessarily where Russia is, especially where nuclear energy is concerned.

Hillary and Podesta and BJ get $$$$ from Russia.

Soros is wanted in Russia.

[Slyfox]

Don’t ya’ll forget that Putin is “anti-gay” so that made him Obama Administration Enemy Number One.

[Jean2]

I cannot agree more and thank God he is!

[crazycat]

I really think that is the basis for their common hatred, it was not just idealogical...not that Bathouse had an ideology.