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>>>I’m going to be honest. I have come to the point of full throated opposition to traditional gender roles. They don’t work in an industrialized society.<<<

Today’s women, as seen in this “protest”, bring less and less to the table than women 50 years ago. As a group they are more selfish, disloyal, less capable cooks, less capable mothers and less kind. But they can work and bring home a paycheck.

However due to the risk of divorce and ending up paying child support and losing half of what you thought you owned, I’m not sure putting up with a typical woman is worth her paycheck.

I think most men would be happy to have the same deal our grandfathers had: Which is work hard, come home to a woman who was supportive and appreciative of you, the husband.

“As a group they are more selfish, disloyal, less capable cooks, less capable mothers and less kind. But they can work and bring home a paycheck.”

You said it!! You said it!! “less capable cooks” Yet male FReepers here would eat a “sammach” these chicks would fix? Dawg you guys are braver than I thought!

It’s the whole problem with the sign’s message.

Men are supposed to work for a women so she can be “provided for”, like she is a 6 year old child or a dog.

The only demand placed on her is some perfunctory request to “appreciate it”.

Oh, well...ok? I’m sure she has been put in the corner there. /s

I think most men would be happy to have the same deal our grandfathers had: Which is work hard, come home to a woman who was supportive and appreciative of you, the husband.

I agree, but with caveats. 1) Our granddads could make good enough money to take care of everything. Most working men now can't. That's not a function of laziness, that's an economic reality. 2) The types of jobs our economy creates are such that there are plenty of positions suitable for women to work outside the home. In the time our grand dads, jobs were more physical and men were needed for them.

In the time of our grandfathers, men worked hard. Women did too, but at home.

Now, we are teaching our young women to expect to be taken care of, and frankly, house work isn't what it once was. My grandma grew up washing clothes in a large bucket and washing dishes in a sink with water carried in buckets from a creek. We don't wash clothes anymore. We put them in a machine and the machine does the work for us. Same with dishes.

The social and economic conditions that promoted traditional gender roles don't exist, and I'm not aware of any rule written by God stating that women had to be at home at all times. The world has changed. We should change with it.

For most couples, this means both having a job outside the home, especially if they *ever* want to be able to afford any children at all. And frankly, given the way we've raised multiple generations of free loaders, showing children that hard work is a good thing is vitally important.