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To: BJ1
I think most men would be happy to have the same deal our grandfathers had: Which is work hard, come home to a woman who was supportive and appreciative of you, the husband.

I agree, but with caveats. 1) Our granddads could make good enough money to take care of everything. Most working men now can't. That's not a function of laziness, that's an economic reality. 2) The types of jobs our economy creates are such that there are plenty of positions suitable for women to work outside the home. In the time our grand dads, jobs were more physical and men were needed for them.

In the time of our grandfathers, men worked hard. Women did too, but at home.

Now, we are teaching our young women to expect to be taken care of, and frankly, house work isn't what it once was. My grandma grew up washing clothes in a large bucket and washing dishes in a sink with water carried in buckets from a creek. We don't wash clothes anymore. We put them in a machine and the machine does the work for us. Same with dishes.

The social and economic conditions that promoted traditional gender roles don't exist, and I'm not aware of any rule written by God stating that women had to be at home at all times. The world has changed. We should change with it.

For most couples, this means both having a job outside the home, especially if they *ever* want to be able to afford any children at all. And frankly, given the way we've raised multiple generations of free loaders, showing children that hard work is a good thing is vitally important.
32 posted on 02/23/2017 4:55:05 PM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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To: JamesP81

I totally agree with you again.

Except that daycare is an unacceptable
Substitute for parents. It
Might work if there are some
Amazing grandparents living with the couple because they might love
The kid as
Much as the parents do. Kids need full on loving supervision from 0 to 18.


36 posted on 02/23/2017 5:49:58 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JamesP81

I totally agree with you again.

Except that daycare is an unacceptable
Substitute for parents. It
Might work if there are some
Amazing grandparents living with the couple because they might love
The kid as
Much as the parents do. Kids need full on loving supervision from 0 to 18.


37 posted on 02/23/2017 5:50:04 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JamesP81

I totally agree with you again.

Except that daycare is an unacceptable
Substitute for parents. It
Might work if there are some
Amazing grandparents living with the couple because they might love
The kid as
Much as the parents do. Kids need full on loving supervision from 0 to 18.


38 posted on 02/23/2017 5:50:13 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JamesP81

I totally agree with you again.

Except that daycare is an unacceptable
Substitute for parents. It
Might work if there are some
Amazing grandparents living with the couple because they might love
The kid as
Much as the parents do. Kids need full on loving supervision from 0 to 18.


39 posted on 02/23/2017 5:50:19 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JamesP81

I totally agree with you again.

Except that daycare is an unacceptable
Substitute for parents. It
Might work if there are some
Amazing grandparents living with the couple because they might love
The kid as
Much as the parents do. Kids need full on loving supervision from 0 to 18.


40 posted on 02/23/2017 5:50:22 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JamesP81

I totally agree with you again.

Except that daycare is an unacceptable
Substitute for parents. It
Might work if there are some
Amazing grandparents living with the couple because they might love
The kid as
Much as the parents do. Kids need full on loving supervision from 0 to 18.


41 posted on 02/23/2017 5:50:27 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JamesP81

I totally agree with you again.

Except that daycare is an unacceptable
Substitute for parents. It
Might work if there are some
Amazing grandparents living with the couple because they might love
The kid as
Much as the parents do. Kids need full on loving supervision from 0 to 18.


42 posted on 02/23/2017 5:50:31 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JamesP81

I totally agree with you again.

Except that daycare is an unacceptable
Substitute for parents. It
Might work if there are some
Amazing grandparents living with the couple because they might love
The kid as
Much as the parents do. Kids need full on loving supervision from 0 to 18.


43 posted on 02/23/2017 5:50:38 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JamesP81

I totally agree with you again.

Except that daycare is an unacceptable
Substitute for parents. It
Might work if there are some
Amazing grandparents living with the couple because they might love
The kid as
Much as the parents do. Kids need full on loving supervision from 0 to 18.


44 posted on 02/23/2017 5:50:45 PM PST by Yaelle
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