[C19fan]

Tillman was a nasty piece of work. He made explicit calls for exterminating blacks.

[babble-on]

In the case at Vanderbilt the university refunded the current value of the $50,000 gift that had funded the building of “Confederate Hall” which was determined to be $1.2 million, today.

I wonder if in the case at Clemson there would be Tillman descendants would would insist upon that treatment if as an early trustee he provided key funding?

These situations are complicated. It’s one thing to deny history, it’s another to honor someone who - even in the time in which he lived - was exceptionally awful.

[Mr. K]

So did Margaret Sanger- but the libtards love her.

“Planned Parenthood” was given that name because “Negro Exterminators” didn’t market as well with their primary customer base.

[bigdaddy45]

Normally I’m not a fan of rewriting history in the name of political correctness. But this is an exception I wouldn’t lose any sleep over. Tillman was NOT a good man.

[ConservativeDude]

http://news.yale.edu/2017/02/11/yale-change-calhoun-college-s-name-honor-grace-murray-hopper-0

Interesting.

Yale actually made a serious effort and put serious thought into this. Surprisingly.

This is more than mere political correctness.

Clearly Hopper is a giant...no one should begrudge her being honored.

But as the article in the link above shows....Calhoun is complex. He is certainly America’s greatest statesman/political scientist. Yet, his thought is also in many ways (his analysis of class) proto-Marxist. That he didn’t really contribute anything to the life of Yale is an important point, and that his legacy was questioned (and questioned diplomatically, not hysterically) by Silliman and others in his day is also very relevant.

I think I would be completely satisfied with this switch IF there was a simultaneous effort to understand the culture of the Old South in a way which was sympathetic, and which explained the many tremendous virtues that existed there, sort of in the way “I’ll Take My Stand” authors did. Perhaps they could simultaneously fund some sort of chair of institute in the name of Robert Penn Warren (a Yale guy, not a perfect representative of Southern Agrarianism, but still, an important expositor of the South).

Southern Conservatism/Agrarianism is a legitimate and important body of thought and culture. And it is NOT just co-extensive with slavery.

This is one of the great evils in American history....to look at the South as just about slavery, and nothing else. This causes us to lose so much.

So I think we should all be very uncomfortable with shutting down Calhoun college. But, change does have to happen sometime....and I am thinking that there are good reasons to take the Yale committees thoughts on this seriously.

But:

we should oppose outright the banning of the Confederate Flag, the removal of Confederate war leaders statues from public space, and the simple identification of the South with slavery and nothing else.

And simultaneously....and for good measure....we have to embrace and explore the Founding Era abolition movements, and especially the serious abolitionism of men like Hamilton, and John Laurens......while simultaneously recognizing that the radical, secularized/socialistic abolition that sprouted in New England in the 1820s and 30s is rightly criticized as being destructive and as much a cause of the Civil War as Calhoun.

In short, only a conservative temperament can help us navigate these shark-infested waters.....(and frankly, I’m not sure that Calhoun had a conservative temperament....he is brilliant....too brilliant, really....and comes across as a revolutionary....unlike say the great Robert E. Lee and the other great Virginians, going all the way back to the Father of our Country).

[Sacajaweau]

And then there's the beloved Senator Robert Byrd.

The Byrd family was the biggest name in Virginia...in fact...I'd say the family owned it for many years.

[Twinkie]

So did the Planned Parenthood Princess, what’s her name?
She thought abortion was the perfect way to exterminate
the “inferior” blacks. She, too, was a nasty piece of
work.

[Uncle Sam 911]

South Carolina is not Connecticut.

[AlaskaErik]

I'm still waiting for Princeton to remove all signs of Woodrow Wilson, who was the most virulent racist to ever occupy the White House, with the exception of B Hussein Obama.

[Sasparilla]

Yale will now have to change its name. It’s namesake, Elihu Yale was a slave trader. How about Snowflake University?

[keving]

All,they giving the money back? I’m sure they should demo the building or back repiaration to the buildings family.